E-Liquid -What do you think is the correct level of regulation

[Mr Mojorisin]

I have read many threads with varying ideas of what is the appropriate level of regulation for e-cigs and e-liquid. The hardware is fairly innocuous but the e-liquid is a bit different.

I made a poll to see what everyone is thinking. For the poll assume the AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction) would be regulating. An AHJ may or may not exist but assume it does for the poll.

Each of the 5 options is meant to be progressive, so each would be inclusive of the prior option(s) (e.g. 4-regulation of distribution would include option 2 and 3). This poll isn't perfect but could be a litmus test for how the community is feeling.

1) No Regulation of any kind

2) Regulation of packaging and age restricted purchase - All liquid would have to be in childproof containers with poison warnings and only sold to those over 18.

3)Regulation of e-liquid manufacture- All e-liquid, whether imported or produced domestically would have to meet a standard criteria and purity guideline with limits on both composition and contaminants. Spot inspections would be required and all ingredients disclosed.

4) Regulation of Distribution - Require specific licensing for sale of e-liquid.

5) Full prescription FDA regulation - similar to other prescription NRT and only available by prescription from a licensed pharmacy.

[Caesarea]

[quote=Mr Mojorisin;211668]
3)Regulation of e-liquid manufacture- All e-liquid, whether imported or produced domestically would have to meet a standard criteria and purity guideline with limits on both composition and contaminants. Spot inspections would be required and all ingredients disclosed.

I'd prefer an option re Kite-Mark for premier quality e-liquid.

And perhaps even a Royal Seal of Approval from the Monarchy in GB: "By appointment to HRH ...."

Though I foresee tobacco fields in the Duchy of Cornwall...

[strayling]

#3 is closest to my views. I want to know what's in the liquid.

[Rookie]

Voted no regulation in the poll because any time the govt. gets involved it seems to continue to grow and become increasingly intrusive and expensive. I believe that manufacturers should test the product for purity and nic content. Bottle it in sealed, child-proof, warning labeled bottles. This should be a matter of good business practice, not govt regulation. Distributors and customers would soon put a supplier out of business if they have a poor quality product and didn't correct the problem. Just reading the posts on this forum product problems have been aired and some fixed the problem others who wouldn't went out of business. Word gets around fast these days.

[katink]

Inbetween 2 and 3, though I do feel for the arguments of the poster above me too. But supposing this would for a change not get 'taken over' by government - then inbetween 2 and 3.

It would be 3, but I am worried about 'guideline with limits on composition': that is an invitation to take out both flavors and the higher nic-contents, and I am positive that a wide range in both, such as it currently is, is needed to retain the big successfactor that the e-cigs are having as to getting smokers in and then, even accidentaly, having them convert to just e-vaping. No problem at all with the rest of 3.

[~kerri]

Originally Posted by katink

Inbetween 2 and 3, though I do feel for the arguments of the poster above me too. But supposing this would for a change not get 'taken over' by government - then inbetween 2 and 3.

It would be 3, but I am worried about 'guideline with limits on composition': that is an invitation to take out both flavors and the higher nic-contents, and I am positive that a wide range in both, such as it currently is, is needed to retain the big successfactor that the e-cigs are having as to getting smokers in and then, even accidentaly, having them convert to just e-vaping. No problem at all with the rest of 3.

I agree so much that I needn't bother typing my version: What katink said.

[Kate]

Bump.

This is a great poll, thanks for setting it up Mr Mojo.

[bronson]

Packaging will help us know what we are vaping

[Ivisi]

Like most of you, I went middle of the road. I'd like to know that steps are being taken to keep this out of the hands of minors (as much as is humanly possible, anyways), labeled properly, and all ingredients tested and disclosed.

And a question. Do you have to have a specific license to sell items like Nicotine Gum or Patches? If not, then that should set a precedent for e-liquid, as well.

Ivisi

[Mr Mojorisin]

Originally Posted by Ivisi

Like most of you, I went middle of the road. I'd like to know that steps are being taken to keep this out of the hands of minors (as much as is humanly possible, anyways), labeled properly, and all ingredients tested and disclosed.

And a question. Do you have to have a specific license to sell items like Nicotine Gum or Patches? If not, then that should set a precedent for e-liquid, as well.

Ivisi

Locally (Maryland) the only places that I see selling Nic Gum and patches are places that also sell cigarettes. I don't know if it's a coincidence or if they fall under the cigarette sales license which is required for analogs.

I would agree with you in principal and am not sure the answer to your question. In my opinion it at least needs to be age restricted purchase.

I am not a fan of regulation as a rule but I think that there are a lot of potential risks with liquid because of the nic. I am also concerned with potential contamination because inhalation is a very direct way to ingest something (just ask a crack head).