Fda approval!

[jesrf]

Paladinx,

There's something we can both agree on!!

Well your always going to have 2 sides to every argument, its up to the individual to maybe get some truth out of both sides. .

[winston8256]

Interesting news.

[mastiff1]

:: pokes head into a thread I haven't trod before ::

I do not understand any rationale for banning e-cigs themselves... the hardware. Especially since people can and do vape no-nic liquid. It is not necessarily a "drug delivery device," so any talk of banning the devices should be indefensible and an unmistakable symptom of recto-cranial inversion.

But I AM concerned about what will happen with the liquid. Even if it isn't banned or made Rx... best case, it becomes an OTC drug, like the gum. And the packaging/labeling requirements alone will become a huge burden to small suppliers. The FDA's gonna want batch testing to verify that a liquid contains the stated amount of nicotine, and they're gonna want those huge annoying Drug Facts boxes on those little tiny bottles, and probably childproof packaging. Flavorings may be prohibited because of that "attractive to children" garbage. No one small will be able to compete in this business, because the costs of compliance will be prohibitive, so our huge corporate overlords will be handed a new way to profit from us.

The closest "analog" (sorry) to vaping I can think of is Nicotrol inhalers, which are Rx. The nicotine comes in 10mg child-resistant carts (4mg delivered, it says) that you plug into a white housing with a mouthpiece. I'm sitting here looking at a nearly full 168-cart box that did my BF no good and in fact expired over a year ago. Great smoking cessation method, that.

Sorry if this is just a rambling n00b post restating things that have been posted 1000 times elsewhere, but it really just hit me today that the liquid is much more potentially problematic than the hardware... so the newborn vaper takes to her keyboard to rant, LOL. If there's a thread with more extensive discussion of this, please point me there and I'll be grateful (I did skip over a few pages of this thread).

I am going to poke my own head in here (and risking getting it chopped off, of course) and say that Shan123 is right, The Small Guy won't be able to compete, leaving the production of juice to the money makers, big business. Isn't that what the US has become, big business friendly and the h--- with the consumer-friendly?
Sorry if I am not in the right forum, but I just received my first e-cig from BestEcig this morning, am enjoying it while surfing. Thought I'd drop in here and say thanks to all of you whose posts have helped me decide which one to buy, even though you may not have known you were helping. Knowing the pros and cons of all the different cigs has been a real education!
Again, thanks to all of you for your posts.
Rick
So much vapor, so little time!
Smoke free for oh, about 8.5 hours and loving it!

[GavinMcCall]

it probably has alot to do with them being american run. because as we know the us government are racist bastards.

Either way win. if they give it to one company any other e-cig should be fairly smooth sailing since they all work the same.

[TropicalBob]

Just FYI: A Ruyan test does not apply to anything else. Each product to be marketed will require its own set of tests and trials. One will not apply to another if any factor is different. And if it isn't, then they are all using Ruyan patents and can pay for that privilege.

And name-calling of that type will hurt our cause as bad as anything you could do. These forum posts are read. Act as if your mother was reading it! (And I hope she'd call you for your slur and obscenity).

[randyc]

What about Greencig? Has it been approved for sale by the FDA?

[TropicalBob]

NO. It was REGISTERED, as required, with the FDA. That in no way signifies approval.

[boxhead]

u people see this place?
Smoore M401 Electronic Cigarette, E-cigarette, E cigarette; FDA APPROVAL; OEM design are welcome, Famous Brand Manufacturer exporting direct from Guangdong China

it has changed it had FDA APROVAL on first page and with every device description, now its is one click deeper but its still there...

[warsphinx]

....... FDA!!! Those bastards! They are only protecting the cancer industry! Whatever if they found carcinogens on e-cigs! What about analogs? They are only trying to restore all the revenue the government makes taxing analogs!!! I smoke a pack and a half a day, i feel robbed!
Analogs dont have FDA approval, they have the Sergeon General's Warning on the box!
E-cigs dont need FDA approval! It's more than time for the government let people live!

[Kate51]

How about this, Johnson Creek have FDA approval - nicotine liquid is ok -


http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...html#post81426

True or false ... would Johnson Creek lie?

That statement is not correct, JC is FDA registered, the facility, the liquid does not have approval, although I imagine the recent changes made are going to make it more favorable for approval, when and if it comes to that.
Clearly stated:

Johnson Creek Original Smoke Juice - The Best E-Liquid in the World - Made Right Here in America