E cigs said hazardous

[Frankie]

And it can be turned to e-cigs as wellm, at least for me. I DID inhale every drag from analog cig (who does not?) and i DO NOT inhale every drag from e-cig. I do not know about the others, nut at least the "priming puff" is always wasted. So vaping 2 ml of 11 mg/ml does not mean getting 22 mg, which is just about official analog pack content.

Or am I wrong? DO YOU inhale every last drag, just like with analogs?

[scrubadub]

No I don't that's why I think all these formulas that crop up here about nicotine intake are worthless.

[Bertrand]

No I don't that's why I think all these formulas that crop up here about nicotine intake are worthless.

I agree. But you do get an idea of the *relative* nicotine intake from the e-liquid nicotine content. Similarly with regular cigarettes when they printed the "smoking machine" readings.

[gadstyle]

Frankly, i think whether countries approve or don't approve will depend on their ability to collect tax. In Singapore where i travel too where e-cigarette is banned. For those who do not know...a cigarette cost something like USD 0.35! The customs will print a customs logo on each individual cigarette.

E-cig is still a relatively new product, most govt will play safe until a powerful agency like FDA and WHO comes out to give a green light

[SuperStack]

Ok, i now have some low/medium (11mg/ml) e-liquid and this is a lot more manageable. With the 18mg i was having to stop after 2-3 puffs because it was just too intense. Also i no longer have the tick under my eye that i was having for the last week.

I purchased both 11mg & 18mg - I found that the 18mg was quite intense at first but then my body acclimated to the strength and I feel normal after using it now for a few days - even the mild heartburn has subsided.

If I pop in an 11mg cart, it just seems weak and doesn't fully satisfy my cravings. I only smoked ultra light analogs before this BTW.

But I can see why someone would move down in strength if experiencing an eye tick.

[whippi]

I found that the Janty 6 mg liquid work wonders. I guess its more about the feeling for me.

[Sardonic]

Sexual dysfunction my ass. That is absolutely not true. Dunno about the rest of it, but that's a joke.

[johnny bobcat]

i wouldn't put too much stock in a one paragraph news article with no evidence written in chinglish.

[sob80sup81]

Frankly, i think whether countries approve or don't approve will depend on their ability to collect tax. In Singapore where i travel too where e-cigarette is banned. For those who do not know...a cigarette cost something like USD 0.35! The customs will print a customs logo on each individual cigarette.

E-cig is still a relatively new product, most govt will play safe until a powerful agency like FDA and WHO comes out to give a green light

Rather than expecting FDA n WHO take action with regard to health aspect of e-cig consumption in relation to its legality, i believe e-cig manufacturer (e-juice manufacturer included) must have their products checked to meet the standards set by either FDA or WHO.

I think now e-cig and e-cig related product manufacturing is no longer a small business, they should be able to afford it. We the consumer would be gladly spending our money to substitute our smoking habit by purchasing something that even the manufacturer don't seem to feel the need to comply with a certain health standard.

I know that i feel better vaping and so do many others but that doesn't stop me from thinking that i pay to be a guinea pig.

I guess not only we must make petition to support e-cig but we should also make petition to force e-cig manufacturer to have their products tested.

[LowThudd]

Well, cigar manufacturers don't have to provide any safety testing, in fact the FDA has never said anything about them. A typical cigar has about as much tobacco as two packs of cigs or MORE, and yet they are consumed much more rapidly. True, most people don't inhale much cigar smoke, but I did. Got me alot more buzzed that sucking down 10ml of 24mg juice in a day. They have PG in them, as well as aditives, flavoring etc. Technically, they are much worse that e-cigs because of the CO, tar and other chemicals being burned. The FDA never thought about stepping on the cigar industry. I don't really see why e-cig companies should have to prove anything, seeing as how vaporized PG and VG inhalation studies have already been done. As long as their juice is free from KNOWN toxins(ie that bad batch of chinese juice the FDA tested), then I don't see the problem. It is the FDA who is claiming they are dangerous, so the burden of proof should be for them in our system of gov't in the US.