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[TropicalBob]

Dr. Loi clearly has the credentials to be believable, both by his degree and his research. And WHO seemed unaware of Dr. Murray Laugesen's research in New Zealand. Those two could help put WHO reps on the right track for factual, not anecdotal, information.

[jimldk]

Hello everybody,

As promised, i give you the contacts of the WHO person in charge of the electronic cigarette dssier:

Dr. DOMBGO FU - WHO
- doctor expert in toxicology matters
-speaks english
tel +41 22 791 40 75

GEMMA VESTAL - WHO
-in charge of the electronic cigarette dossier, preparing the next conference that will take place in November and where they will discuss the electronic cigarette.
-speakes english
tel +41 22 791 47 05

Please, if anybody call them (ideally a doc), I would be grateful if you coud give us here the feedback on your conversation.

C U

Supermig

Thanks for the info...I will try to get in touch with these two....I wish you have also their email address too....

My trials even though small has already shown significant discovery and the most important part is the safety aspect but unfortunately it also shows it potential abuse....I am myself in a dilemma ...and because e-liquids are not pharmaceutical grade or approved..it will be touch and go situation...or some of you Americans says "Catch 22" situation.....

Grateful for all your help and especially to all the forum members who contributed their reports and questions which actually help a lot...included the good and bad arguments....all taken with a pinch of salt.....thanks...

[supermig]

I was just wondering...

[Grumpysanta]

I realise it has not been a full month yet but have there been any devopments ?

[jimldk]

I was just wondering...

I tried calling them...but was put on hold for so many times until I gave up .....my total cost for overseas call is more than my expenses for my e-cig liquids......anyway, I left them a message to call me back..that was 2 weeks ago..still no reply....it is not over yet....will get my ministry people to help out....getting my toxicology report ready by my Govertnment Chemical / Toxicology department...still waiting for those too...hmmm...I am a very patient man normally but sometimes...sigh....there is a limit to it..

[supermig]

I am 100% sure I am not the only one thinking about the WHO meeting coming next week... I hope we'll have their conclusions or at least the speech contents very shortly after the meeting. Let's cross fingers !!!Anyway, I'll try to call the WHO in geneva in the following 48 hours. I'll keep you posted !
C U you soon

[dazzer1975]

The W.H.O. have only been dragged into this, at least publicly and in this time frame as a result of these Chinese sellers detailing in print the W.H.O.'s recommendation of these e-cigs.

We only have the Chinese and their business practices to blame if the who rightly decide to make a point about their name being used.

Even Ruyan claim endorsement from W.H.O.

while this continues, and it is doing, the W.H.O. will only ever be interested in shutting these cowboys down.

If they take a tough stance on e smoking you can't blame them with the industry they are working with.

[Bertrand]

I think I would probably welcome the regulations if they were reasonable. I would be much more comfortable buying components and nicotine solution from Pfizer or Bayer than cheap-ecigs-they-real-good.com

[dc2k08]

my total cost for overseas call is more than my expenses for my e-cig liquids

get skype doc, 1cent/minute to landlines most countries, 10cent+ for cell...easy-peasy.

[Bertrand]

get skype doc, 1cent/minute to landlines most countries, 10cent+ for cell...easy-peasy.

Probably doesn't want to talk to a senior consultant at WHO with a conversation that begins "Sorry? I can't hear you <brr brr>.. It's echoing. Oh, that's better... There seems to be a delay..."