Do We Need To Stock Up Because Of The Ban?

[Vaporer]

By shelf life I mean whats on the label.(date)
Properly stored in cool , dark, I'd vape it for 4 yrs and not worry.
Zero head space is great, but I wouldn't open a new bottle to top it off.
Oddly enough a nicotine manufacturer states the shelf life of nicotine as 1 year.
Strange....................

I'd get it while you can. It may be available later, but it won't be as cheap as now no matter what the decision is. I have another 500ml on the way now. The hardware I can fix.

[paise]

Kurt:

I ordered 2 sample bottles from a store online called Specialty Bottle (Specialty Bottle - Glass & Plastic Bottles Jars Vials Tins Other Containers). It didn't cost me anything for ordering 2 sample bottles. Both bottles are amber color.

Would it be worth my time and not harm the nic juice or e-liquid if I order more bottles from them, this time actually ordering the bottles - not just the 2 samples offered but actual bottles, then transfer my nic-liquid and e-liquid over to the amber or cobalt blue bottles for storage?

The only place I have for storage is beneath one of my kitchen cabinets or in a little case I have that holds about 3 bottles of wine. It keeps the wine (all but the reds) somewhat chilled. This works out well for me since I prefer Chardonnay, a white wine rather than the red wines like a Chianti. Would storage in a wine fridge be too cool?

Just curious. Actually, I can't purchase much at one time because of finances so I order a little at a time. I have few larger bottles. Would it be okay to combine the nic-liquid (48mg-54mg) in one bottle then seal it using the bottles from Speciality Bottles or just transfer each into a separate bottle of it's own? Generally I can order 20 to 40ml at a time and the 40ml is only when I have extra $$ to order it.

[emus]

I wouldn't worry about combining your 48 and 54; top off the bottle so you can avoid oxidizing the nicotine.

The juice stores add flavors willi nilli w/o knowing how they will degrade the juice over time.

I buy unflavored juice for long term storage; less ingredients to contaminate the mix.

[Kurt]

Kurt:

I ordered 2 sample bottles from a store online called Specialty Bottle (Specialty Bottle - Glass & Plastic Bottles Jars Vials Tins Other Containers). It didn't cost me anything for ordering 2 sample bottles. Both bottles are amber color.

Would it be worth my time and not harm the nic juice or e-liquid if I order more bottles from them, this time actually ordering the bottles - not just the 2 samples offered but actual bottles, then transfer my nic-liquid and e-liquid over to the amber or cobalt blue bottles for storage?

The only place I have for storage is beneath one of my kitchen cabinets or in a little case I have that holds about 3 bottles of wine. It keeps the wine (all but the reds) somewhat chilled. This works out well for me since I prefer Chardonnay, a white wine rather than the red wines like a Chianti. Would storage in a wine fridge be too cool?

Just curious. Actually, I can't purchase much at one time because of finances so I order a little at a time. I have few larger bottles. Would it be okay to combine the nic-liquid (48mg-54mg) in one bottle then seal it using the bottles from Speciality Bottles or just transfer each into a separate bottle of it's own? Generally I can order 20 to 40ml at a time and the 40ml is only when I have extra $$ to order it.

paise, this is the company I was thinking of, specifically:

Amber Euro Glass Bottle 50 ml w/ Dropper Cap (Blk) - 18 EURO BLK

I like the euro dropper caps because you can insert a syringe. I'm getting 30 mL and 50 mL amber bottles...I wish the cobalt came with euro dropper cap, but it is only Bostons that I can see.

Unless the amount of liquid in a bottle/jar is more than what you would go through in about a month or so, I would just leave them sealed as is. That's why I am doing 30 mL or 50 mL.

"Would storage in a wine fridge be too cool?"

That would be WAY cool! But seriously, I think those are around 52 deg F, right? That is perfect. As others have said, store them topped off to minimize rxn with O2 (although there is very little of that in general).

Flavors I think are a crap shoot for long term storage...some will hydrolyze it seems over time. Mints are oils, so they probably will store long term fine. Fruits are esters, which can hydrolyze eventually. I don't what my current faves are chemically, but I will prob find out at some point. These are caramel, pralines, cream, chocolate. So I am making flavors as I go. Long term storage will be for unflavored high-nic juice.

To be on the safe side, too, I would wash the bottles you get with high-proof vodka and let them dry overnight or with a hair dryer. Bottles right from a producer may or not be totally clean.

Hope this helps!

Kurt

[rothenbj]

paise, this is the company I was thinking of, specifically:

Amber Euro Glass Bottle 50 ml w/ Dropper Cap (Blk) - 18 EURO BLK

I like the euro dropper caps because you can insert a syringe. I'm getting 30 mL and 50 mL amber bottles...I wish the cobalt came with euro dropper cap, but it is only Bostons that I can see.

Unless the amount of liquid in a bottle/jar is more than what you would go through in about a month or so, I would just leave them sealed as is. That's why I am doing 30 mL or 50 mL.

"Would storage in a wine fridge be too cool?"

That would be WAY cool! But seriously, I think those are around 52 deg F, right? That is perfect. As others have said, store them topped off to minimize rxn with O2 (although there is very little of that in general).

Flavors I think are a crap shoot for long term storage...some will hydrolyze it seems over time. Mints are oils, so they probably will store long term fine. Fruits are esters, which can hydrolyze eventually. I don't what my current faves are chemically, but I will prob find out at some point. These are caramel, pralines, cream, chocolate. So I am making flavors as I go. Long term storage will be for unflavored high-nic juice.

To be on the safe side, too, I would wash the bottles you get with high-proof vodka and let them dry overnight or with a hair dryer. Bottles right from a producer may or not be totally clean.

Hope this helps!

Kurt

I had read on another thread about the wine coolers and decided to invest in one. I got on the net and found a number of them for around $100 plus about $30 for shipping. I was about to order one and then thought, "craigslist". Did a quick search and found someone selling one new, but without the box for $30. Turns out that he had gotten it as a birthday gift and never used it. They were moving so they were selling off things they didn't need. It has a digital temp control. I closed off the glass front and am keeping my liquid at about 57 degrees. Works for me and it's isolated from the refrig where I felt you'd get too much humidity. JMHO

[KonaNeil]

Another cheap option is simply a small under counter refrigerator. Our local Costco sells one for about $60 and its probably less on the mainland.

I've turned the temperature on ours to minimum cooling and it stays at 51 degrees F.

[emus]

How much does it cost to run the mini fridge?

$10.00/month??

[Winace]

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Why don't we all just go to the nearest mall and vape water? Would they try to ban a water vaporizer? Water produces vapor... your body is primarily composed of it, would they attempt banning it? I'd like to see someone arrest me for smoking water! Nicotine is the only thing here in question... how can a city ban vaping in general? Will they ban heating elements (atomizers)? This is really kind of ridiculous... What if I disolved a Jolly Rancher candy and wanted to consume it through vapor? How I consume a consumable product should be my choice, it is not like I am exposing myself while sticking it in my ___! This is more than just an FDA issue in my opinion. I feel as if my basic freedoms are being placed under a microsope here. Sorry for the vent..... just a little irritated today I guess...

[Vaporer]

Winace ,

You have a right to be irritated and should be. It all comes down to money. You could vape PG or VG & H20 with flavoring , no nic and technically they cant touch you.
Some anti smoker will raise hell no dount or an owner afraid of being in violation of the anti public smoking laws. If it looks like smoke and looks like you are smoking , it must be smoke. So, they will bitch.
The best you can do is be polite and explain it to them with a description of the PV and it function and explain it has no nic in it. Have it printed off and dare them to fine or arrest you. Personal possesion isn't affected even if they are banned, only outlawed.
Many times I just vape PG and have a snus in. I get my nic fix and oral fixation at the same time. Sure stretches your supply.
A Jolly rancher candy has a lot of sugar and will carbon the atty, use a flavoring like Loranns, Bicfords or Capellas instead...even Tasty Vapors works well!
The main thing is not to be confrontational. We need all the good exposure we can get.

[KonaNeil]

How much does it cost to run the mini fridge?

$10.00/month??

I don't think so. The "Energy Star" tag affixed to appliances in stores will tell you the normal usage but keeping it above 50f will of course cost even less.

I have one because I'm in the tropics, not specifically for nic juice. It saves me having Cokes, beer and cooking oil go bad from the heat.