email I got from the FDA

[Justncredible]

Smoking cessation???

Nope not here, I am not interested in stopping smoking. I just refuse to pay the taxes on them now. I can smoke all day for pennies. If I do stop then thats a bonus, but I am not kidding myself, nicotine is a big monkey and why should I go thru hell kicking a habit.

Sad thing is we have lost all manufacturing, so we can not get local made fluids.

My state loses $2.52 a day I do not buy a pack of smokes. Wisconsin is #5 on taxes on tobacco.

[breno]

Schoolboy, 14, nearly dies in free nicotine gum binge | Metro.co.uk

Boy 14 nearly dies chewing nicotine gum.

I don't think anyone has nearly died simply from overdosing on analogues.
There is also an overdose risk with patches if you continue to smoke, not likely with vapour as it is unlikely you would do a lot of both as it has the same mechanics as smoking.

[breno]

Futhermore if ecigarettes are banned it is inevitable a black market will develop, in liquids
and atomisers, which would be less safe for existing and inevitably new young smokers.
Atomisers can't be hard to make they only cost a few dollars and people an already make their own liquids.
I have got all my cigarettes on the blackmarket for the last 15 years I don't like paying the highest taxes in Europe. The cigs are all smuggled in in big packs, or big 1/2 kilo packs of tobacco, that pack would last me 5-6 weeks, a similar sized pack of liquid would last me a lot longer, let me see I reckon you could get 60+ 30ml bottles in the same space, so I think we are talking about what several years supply in the same volume? And I buy 3 packs at a time!! Currently they crush smugglers cars and that don't stop stop em.

So a ban will be totally ineffective anyway, at least as far as I am concerned, apart from makng the product cheaper, as it is with analogues for me know, as black market ones are 1/3 the price!!

[Superstargoddess]

Schoolboy, 14, nearly dies in free nicotine gum binge | Metro.co.uk

Boy 14 nearly dies chewing nicotine gum.

I don't think anyone has nearly died simply from overdosing on analogues.
There is also an overdose risk with patches if you continue to smoke, not likely with vapour as it is unlikely you would do a lot of both as it has the same mechanics as smoking.

Can anyone confirm the risk of no chance on OD'ing on a PV? I can't possibly see how it would even happen, I say 0% chance. Unless you are an idiot and drink the liquid, then you will be fine. And even if you did drink the liquid, I think that it would probably cause you to puke it all out anyway. Uneducated guess there, but that's what I would figure.

[Superstargoddess]

Futhermore if ecigarettes are banned it is inevitable a black market will develop, in liquids
and atomisers, which would be less safe for existing and inevitably new young smokers.
Atomisers can't be hard to make they only cost a few dollars and people an already make their own liquids.
I have got all my cigarettes on the blackmarket for the last 15 years I don't like paying the highest taxes in Europe. The cigs are all smuggled in in big packs, or big 1/2 kilo packs of tobacco, that pack would last me 5-6 weeks, a similar sized pack of liquid would last me a lot longer, let me see I reckon you could get 60+ 30ml bottles in the same space, so I think we are talking about what several years supply in the same volume? And I buy 3 packs at a time!! Currently they crush smugglers cars and that don't stop stop em.

So a ban will be totally ineffective anyway, at least as far as I am concerned, apart from makng the product cheaper, as it is with analogues for me know, as black market ones are 1/3 the price!!

I honestly don't see how they would even be able to flat out ban it really. I don't think that it has anything in it that a patch or anything else doesn't have and it's not like it has any illegal drugs in it or anything. I can see them totally regulating it or making the liquid manufacturers use a little bit less of this or that component in it, but I can't see them just flat out banning it.

[sue]

Please don"t let them ban this. I quit real cigs 4 days ago, and bought e-cigs yesterday as I was missing the hand to mouth, swirling smoke kinda thing (tho I was wearing a nicotine patch). Tonight, while having a few glasses of wine and relaxing, I have reached for my pack of cigs, only to happily remember that I am now smoking e-cigs (i keep alternating between the full, low and zero nic). Five days ago I was a pack or more a day die hard smoker - today I am loving my e-cig - never would have thought it possible.

[sue]

Omg - I can even blow smoke rings with my e-cig - life is good! Sorry - new at this vaping thing and very excited...

[sonic__temple]

When I was a teen, our school still had sexual education classes. We were "introduced" to sex. Didn't mean we had to do it. In the state I live in, my 5 and 14 yr old daughters can sit at a bar in a restaurant with me (as close to the taps as they want) and be "introduced" to what alcohol is. Doesn't mean they will want to try it. My kids walk into any gas station in this state to buy a pack of gum. When they are ready to pay for it, what is directly behind the cashier? An "introduction" to A WHOLE WALL OF CIGARETTES! Doesn't mean they are going to start smoking. I suppose my problem with that statement "may introduce young people to" is very subjective. I think it should be my job to guide my kids in the proper direction not the FDA.

[stevo_tdo]

Alternative quit smoking methods that have been proven safe? Like the patch that has killed people and Chantix which currently has a law firm running a commercial about, wanting people to come forward and sue that company?

We need scientific data, someone go get Bill Nye the science guy!

I would love that. I might even settle for beakman's world. What would work however is everyones famous Dr. Oz who's always on oprah. Then you'll have a huge demographic knowing the benefits. I almost believe people trust him more than the fda. Remember, Oprah is god.

[Webby]

Well young people will smoke cigarettes if they want to, it's legal!!

no no no...that simply isn't true.

The cigarette vending machine in my local restaurant here around the corner, out a view, between the toy grabber arm machine and the golf video game, and the bathrooms says they are strictly for adults....

...and if an adult should happen to catch some kid buying cigarettes BOY would they get a stern look...