U.S.A: PACT Act 2009

[kristin]

Why do these have to be considered either? Nicotine is a drug, but is it only a MEDICINE?

Caffeine is a drug, but it's not considered a medicine. Soda cans aren't considered a medical device to deliver caffeine to stop drinking coffee. Not all caffeine-containing products must be classified as a "coffee product." Why must liquid nicotine be considered either a tobacco product or a medical product? Alcohol is used in medical applications (Nyquil), yet beer tappers aren't considered medical devices.

Why can't it be called what it is? Recreational Nicotine.

[Crash]

God it must suck to live in America.

[solonguniverse]

Originally Posted by Crash

God it must suck to live in America.

They're not the only country with ridiculous taxes and an impending ban on e-cigarettes, but it does suck sometimes. Quite a few countries have already banned them and more on the way.

[Crash]

Originally Posted by solonguniverse

They're not the only country with ridiculous taxes and an impending ban on e-cigarettes, but it does suck sometimes. Quite a few countries have already banned them and more on the way.

Yea but they are the only ones dragging it out and creating all the drama. Ne how I can make all my own stuff so I wont be affected just need to stock up on a life time of atties.

[seminolewind]

If e-liquid is a tobacco product, does that mean that the patch, lozenge, gum, etc are tobacco products as well?

[kristin]

Originally Posted by seminolewind

If e-liquid is a tobacco product, does that mean that the patch, lozenge, gum, etc are tobacco products as well?

No, those are considered medicinal drugs, with the intent to treat nicotine addiction. Not intended for continued use.

[Pandora]

I said this in a different post, but I'll say it again here - in addition to contacting congressmen and signing petitions, who wants to get together and write to talk show hosts? Seriously, it will bring more attention to the issue and help educate people. I haven't even started vaping yet lol, but I'm down to help out. I don't have enough education to write about the topic yet (although this forum is helping me get there quickly), but I am an excellent writer/editor. I'll lend a hand if I can.

[solonguniverse]

Originally Posted by Crash

Yea but they are the only ones dragging it out and creating all the drama. Ne how I can make all my own stuff so I wont be affected just need to stock up on a life time of atties.

I don't necessarily believe in the democratic process at all times, but "dragging it out" is just another way of saying taking in all viewpoints before making a decision. The motives behind their final decisions aren't always the most pure, but in the months following the initial controversy surrounding e-cigarettes they have at least pretended to discuss the issue.

[Mac]

Originally Posted by PlanetScribbles

Is this where the phrase 'stuck between a rock and a hard place' comes from?

If by "rock" you mean corrupt and oppressive government and by "hard place" you mean greedy parasitic corporations seeking to profit from the exploitation of humanity then yes.

[Krel]

Originally Posted by Mac

All though that may have been true once the SE court case may change things. The court hearing comes down to a simple decision. If e-cigs are ruled a tobacco product they will be left on the market. If they are not then they become a drug device combo and immediately banned. So they are about to be either 1 a tobacco product or 2 completely banned.

Sucks doesn't it?

Why can't the be categorized like food or Caffeine? Why does it keep coming back to the drug/deliverything when I get more kick from my Redbull in the morning?