E-Cigs will never be Legal

[Ajaxus]

Plus the fact that many of our polititions have stock in tabacco, Pharmacology and other companies that will lose money if they become legal.

I could see many of those companies jumping into the e-cig market if they were legalized.

They make money off of nicotine, not tobacco. If they can get you addicted, they can make money. It's another product for them.

And not all smokers will magically switch over to e-cigs, many will stick with what they currently smoke. I see this as being a big opportunity for any big tobacco company that wants in.

[leathermonkey7]

Here is a doctor talking about e cigs on TV if it hasn't been posted already:
Rachael Ray Show - On the Show - "Going Too Far?" Medical Edition

[Dion615]

The economy works on competition. Anything to compete with cigarette companies will bring down the cost of cigarettes and then increase its consumption further which will keep cigarette-related illness even with today. Cigarette companies can refuse to ship their products to stores who also sell e-cig merchandise just as boar's head refuses to ship it's deli meat to delis that carry any other brand. There are always ways for companies to use their leverage against one another. I don't think that it will ever be necessary to make e-cigs illegal. Further, with the health care reform now under way, more healthy people will DECREASE taxes.

In the end, a good majority of the country would prefer to stick with their tried and true cigarettes and in the future I'm sure e-cigs will become the "....." way to smoke. I'd rather be a ..... than dead, though.

[marco222]

its legal in netherlands xD

[Thulium]

Tobacco products are legal. Judge Leon said that electronic cigarettes can be regulated as a tobacco product. Pass a law that says so or wait for the FDA to do it and e-cigarettes will be legal. (I'm leaning toward us pushing forward legislation cuz the only thing you can rely on from the FDA is that they will find a way to screw it up so we need to beat them to the punch)

[Rosa]

yeah, I hate the idea of making them taxable but you know, at least I'd still get to vape. On the other hand, I sort of wish the FDA would do the real testing because then after they don't find anything, this whole issue could be put to rest. On the third hand, at least if they were considered tobacco products, we'd have the time to get some backing (ie: money) for real testing and be able to fight it at a later date. On the fourth hand (?), if the FDA found trace amounts of anything in the e-cigs we'd be sunk forever - but cigarettes would still be on the market.
That's the part that gets me all steamed up! How could they ban PVs and leave cigarettes on the market???? I agree with the doctor in the video, it should be all or nothing. At this point, don't get me wrong I love vaping, but the only solution I can see is all or nothing.

[kristin]

I don't get people being worried about taxes. How did you ever believe for a second that they wouldn't be taxed in SOME way?

Either way, a taxed cigarette is still cheaper than a nicotine drug.

A cigarette is 35 cents, tax included. A Nicotrol cartridge is $1.05!!!

If ecigs are declared drugs, they will be 3X more expensive than if they are taxed as tobacco products.

Additionally, the FDA has nothing to do with taxes and each state taxes differently for different tobacco products. Cigarettes are taxed higher than other tobacco products. Ecigs are NOT cigarettes any more than a cigar or chew is. if a cigar is taxed less than a cigarette, then ecigs could easily follow suit.

In order for these to be taxed at the same tax rate as cigarettes, they'll first have to be declared tobacco products. Then each state will have to figure out the overall sales of ecigs, price points, etc. in order to determine what they can tax them. Finally, they have to pass a law to initiate the new tax. Because they would be a reduced harm tobacco product, the chances are high that they won't be taxed as severely as cigarettes.

So, as taxed tobacco products, the prices will most likely still be more affordable than cigarettes and 3 times less than gum, patches or inhalers.

So quit freaking out over taxes!!

[dk2]

I think taxing them is fair, however if they are not as dangerous health wise as cigarettes Vapors should demand that they be taxed less than cigarettes as the strain on the health care system isn't the same as the strain caused by combustible tobacco (in Canada). Smokers have had to endure large and aggressive tax hikes as legislators and non smoking public could always fall back on the argument that smokers are draining the Health Care System's resources; with ecigs the same argument can't be made.