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E-Cigs will never be Legal in Campaigning; I would love to see someone smoke tobacco in a glass meth pipe...LOL As far as I can remember tobacco ...
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    I would love to see someone smoke tobacco in a glass meth pipe...LOL
    As far as I can remember tobacco doesnt melt or catch fire easily through glass...it just makes a really nasty burnt tasting smoke. FDA stands for Federal Dumbass Association...its where people who get fired from high postiton government jobs and were pissed off of so they got together to screw with whatever they could. Just because they can. Buttmunchers
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    Default And in a parallel discussion

    Ladyraj posted this in the discussion under Campaigning Discussions
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    RJR meet Glaxo to make new improved "acceptable" means of feeding those nicotinic receptors:

    LONDON (Reuters) - GlaxoSmithKline Plc (GSK.L) aims to harness the positive effects of nicotine through a drug development alliance potentially worth more than $1.5 billion with U.S. biotech firm Targacept Inc. (TRGT.O).

    Shares in Targacept, which was spun out of the research arm of R.J. Reynolds Tobacco in 2000, jumped 14 percent to $10.25 in early trade on the Nasdaq on Friday after the two companies unveiled the deal.

    Glaxo, Targacept sign $1.5 bln nicotine drug deal | Markets | Markets News | Reuters

    For more info:

    Targacept: Targeting Neuronal Nicotinic Receptors NNRs
    I followed her links, and then commented:

    Quote Originally Posted by vocalek
    "...the key to their successful development as drugs is making them highly specific, so they do not cause unwanted side effects."

    Also, if they are specific enough, we will need a different Rx for the nicotine-based drug that effectively treats our anxiety, and the one that treats our ADD, and the one that prevents the Lewy Bodies from building up in our brain (Parkinson's), etc. etc., at a cost of $300+ per month, per drug.
    And then I found this: Targacept: Biopharmaceutical Company - Product Pipeline

    All conspiracy theories aside, I am starting to hear the theme song from the Twilight Zone playing in the background.


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    This thread FINALLY speaks the truth. It's all about big business and government profits and taxes. We actual people make no difference whatsoever to either faction!!!

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    Yes, unfortunately, the world has always revolved around money and power. Be that as it may, I am NOT going to sit down, nor am I going to shut up.

    At times, I feel like that little boy in the story, who kept saying, "But the emporer is naked!" Well, if the enemy can repeat a lie often enough that people begin to believe it is true, then perhaps it is possible to repeat truth often enough that people begin to believe that it is true.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vocalek View Post
    Yes, unfortunately, the world has always revolved around money and power. Be that as it may, I am NOT going to sit down, nor am I going to shut up.

    At times, I feel like that little boy in the story, who kept saying, "But the emporer is naked!" Well, if the enemy can repeat a lie often enough that people begin to believe it is true, then perhaps it is possible to repeat truth often enough that people begin to believe that it is true.
    Awesome posts Vocalek! Love what you have said in all the threads I've read. Too bad YOU weren't Prez!
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    As I said, I just won't shut up. I turned this into a post on my blog:

    The Truth About Nicotine: Targeting Nicotinic Receptors and Profits


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    There are tons of lobbyists in DC paying all kinds of money to get what their company wants. Think of how many lobbyists there are from just Big tobacco and big pharm. We would never be able to match that amount of courtship/bribe money.
    And who's to say how many lobbyists are there to slow down the rise of ecigs enough so that tobacco and pharm can develop their own ecig? Nicotine for pain is probably a coverup, or maybe pain can be controlled with a personal vaporizer clone? If so, the lungs would be the fastest way to the bloodstream therefore the fastest delivery of a pain med. Maybe it's a race between tobacco and pharma to see who gets that PV first. We are probably just a nuisance to them, like a fly that won't go away
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    Gemini - I couldn't agree with you more!
    :cool: Smokefree since January 5, 2009! :cool:

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    it's fine, thats just more reason for me to put up my website Welcome to my Website! and finally start bitching about the government.... So much BS goes on in government, how is a lobbbyist different from someone bribing an official? In fact most of what our government does is so much like the mafia, running hte lottery, yeah its illegal if you run one but the government can screw up countless peoples lives over gambling addictions and its perfectly legal, **** makes me sick.....
    Sometimes I really just feel like moving out of this country, perhaps someday when I've got enough money :P

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    Its all about the money nobody cares for public health.Government is a business and until they will not find a way to profit from the eCigarette ,they see it as a "competition"to their source of income(tobacco)

    Money talks Bull**** walks!

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