E-Cigs will never be Legal

[CrazyTerrie11]

Its all about the money nobody cares for public health.Government is a business and until they will not find a way to profit from the eCigarette ,they see it as a "competition"to their source of income(tobacco)

Money talks Bull**** walks!

I agree with that 100%.

I have made a personal decision:

If they succeed in making my PV illegal I will quit nicotine completely. I will not put another MF dime in BIG TOBACCOS pocket anymore. And I still will be the one to win..Not them. I will not be forced like cattle back to the ranch (analogs) so to speak. Thanks for letting me vent..LOL

[BARENETTED]

Terrie - I am with you all the way. I have enough stock to last me for a year. I am using low strength now and will just go to DIY 0 nic!

[P3rplexity]

So when they legalize marijauna, how long do you think it will be until we can buy ......... e-juice in the US? }:-)

Reality is for those that lack imagination...

Lol that'll be the day

[Brentikinz]

'Everything' is controlled by the need for 'PROFIT'..... Every companies goal is to keep on increasing profits. If you sell medical drugs then the last thing you want is for people to be healthy! If you are a government making a lot of PROFIT from tobacco taxes then the last thing you want is for people to have an untaxed alternative. Unfortunately even our e-cig retailers cannot be 100 per cent ethical because they have no choice and must be able to profit from selling e-cigs. The only way to have a better world is to support the ideas of the people in my sig line.

Hi surbitonPete! good to see another Venus Project supporter on here.

This rings very true. My father was a hemophiliac who got HIV/AIDS from a product known as Factor VIII clotting medicine produced by Bayer (same company that makes the aspirin, they showed a clip talking about it on Zeitgeist Addendum).

[smokingfuture]

I become quite the conspiracy theorist when it comes to this stuff. I totally agree that the US and the tobacco companies will do what they can to keep these out of the market. The same way the feds and the oil companies have tried so hard to keep electric cars off the market.

I visited the Air and Space Museum in DC a few months back. There was a jet there from the 1950's that could fly just over Mach 7 (7,000 MPH I believe), could crest the limits of space (meaning just leave earth's atmosphere, then come back on its own.

FROM THE 1950'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we had THAT kind of technology over 50 years ago, can anyone REALLY tell me we can't produce an effective battery to run a simple car? Come on! . Not to mention all the stories of steam cars, water-conversion cars, and electric-conversion cars that (smart) people have engineered for themselves over the years! So now we have hybrid cars that cost thousands more and get like 30MPG instead of 25! UGH! Makes me so mad!!!

Anyway - back to e-cigs. I suspect the exact same thing will happen. The tobacco companies will come out with some kind of hybrid - and they'll be quickly legalized and promoted by the feds, the FDA, the health community, et all. Because then the taxes can keep rolling in, people can keep dying, and the government can keep rolling in their death-cash.

Phew... need to go have a smoke!

[Gemini_Lightning]

I prefer to consider myself a "conspiracy realist" as opposed to theorist. Simply collect evidence, add it up, and draw a logical conclusion. The inference is what the Government does not want anyone to draw... then we would be independent thinkers.

And for those calling for FDA regulation... citing manufacturing safety: does anyone seriously still believe the FDA is concerned with our safety? We don't have clean food or water... prescription drugs make people sick... basically, if it says FDA approved, I stay far away from it.

[CrazyTerrie11]

Terrie - I am with you all the way. I have enough stock to last me for a year. I am using low strength now and will just go to DIY 0 nic!

You sound like this gal I met here at the forum who lives near me and runs the VIP (vaping in phoenix local forum here). I swear she reminds me of those people who are stockpiling food and supplies for the end of the world. Only she wont be eating any canned food or drinking any water because she is stockpiling ecigs stuff like the end of the world is comming soon. I think she has enough for a full year at least for each model she has! I know whose house Im heading for when the bombs head this way LOL!!!

[CrazyTerrie11]

Sorry a few more comments now that I am on my soap box . Why is it ok for the production and sale of water bongs which NO ONE uses for tobacco but its not ok for the production and marketing of ecigs in the US? Doesnt make much sense. Also the FDA...........

Get used to that "doesn't make sense" statement. Anything that the fda does never makes any sense. I dont know how they get away with that but they do and they will continue to do so. Maybe since Obama is a smoker we could find an ally, but I doubt it. I just love american politics:

Poly= synthetic, fake
Tics= blood sucking leaches
go figure.......

[alsmom]

I dunno I think if they can sell weed pipes, speed pipes, and crack pipes and just call them whatever it is they call them I'm sure we'll be able to get our PV's it's only the juice we might have to worry about. Hey there's another idea anyone try putting e-juice in a speed pipe?

Ya when they sell them they can call them anything, but when you get caught with them, they are drug paraphenalia(sic)

[alsmom]

Ladyraj posted this in the discussion under Campaigning Discussions
Discouraging Nonsmokers from Vaping



I followed her links, and then commented:



And then I found this: Targacept: Biopharmaceutical Company - Product Pipeline

All conspiracy theories aside, I am starting to hear the theme song from the Twilight Zone playing in the background.

ya you are right, this is scary!