E-Cigs will never be Legal in Campaigning; Vaping will be legal, but only once it's taxed equally or enough for money not to be a reason to ...
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Vaping will be legal, but only once it's taxed equally or enough for money not to be a reason to vape. It will keep the politicians making money, which is (as we all know) the most important thing to them.
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i agree. i think vaping will be legal and e-cigarette use will generally increase. my one area of concern is the completely false and unsubstantiated claim that "second hand vapor" is harmful to others. now i know no one has really come out and made that claim specifically but when there is (i think there has been) talk of amending public smoking bans to include e-cigarettes one must wonder why those proposing such an amendment must think "second hand vapor" is harmful to the public...
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In my opinion they can never really be illegal. Maybe the nicotine, but why do you need that anyway? There is nothing inside an e-cigarette that cannot be manufactured in your own home, with the exception of the nicotine. It's a battery and a vaporizer, how can they ban that?
I am only just starting vaping and I already quit cigarettes. I have no interest in nicotine. I want to be able to smoke, without the adverse health effects. I still crave the action of smoking, but have no use for nicotine.
What's the big deal, why do you feel you need the nicotine? Sure quitting smoking is hard, but the nicotine addiction is gone in 72hours. Yea, that's an uncomfortable 72hours, but big deal. If I had a PV at the time I quit, with no nicotine, I would have had a much easier time.
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Originally Posted by
llcoolbeans
In my opinion they can never really be illegal. Maybe the nicotine, but why do you need that anyway? There is nothing inside an e-cigarette that cannot be manufactured in your own home, with the exception of the nicotine. It's a battery and a vaporizer, how can they ban that?
I am only just starting vaping and I already quit cigarettes. I have no interest in nicotine. I want to be able to smoke, without the adverse health effects. I still crave the action of smoking, but have no use for nicotine.
What's the big deal, why do you feel you need the nicotine? Sure quitting smoking is hard, but the nicotine addiction is gone in 72hours. Yea, that's an uncomfortable 72hours, but big deal. If I had a
PV at the time I quit, with no nicotine, I would have had a much easier time.
Nicotine, like alcohol, caffeine or chocolate is a nice substance, just as nice as "the action of smoking". And of and by itself can be very beneficial. Remember the smoke kills, not the nicotine.
Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill.
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E-cigs are banned in Denmark
I had bought some e-cigs from China. They were taken by the costums and handed over to the Danish Medicines Agency. Now I have got a letter telling, that it will be returned to sender because they are banned in Denmark, and I can risk a fine for trying to import them from China.
However Denmark is member of the EEC, so I have bought e-cigs from the UK, which is legal to do.
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sorry to break it to you but the vape is NOT a new thing and it ISNT going away :P so keep on keepin on! i think the FDA and "big tobacco and pharma" will soon jump on the bandwagon. i for one wouldnt mind a little regulation on the subject in terms of a study by the FDA. if its regulated and taxed just like regular cigs, i think the "big tobacco" companies will soon release their own e-cigs and they will be of a controlled quality and specification, dont fear change, embrace it, not everyone and everything is out to get us... well most of us ;D
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Originally Posted by
Dankery
sorry to break it to you but the vape is NOT a new thing and it ISNT going away :P so keep on keepin on! i think the
FDA and "big tobacco and pharma" will soon jump on the bandwagon. i for one wouldnt mind a little regulation on the subject in terms of a study by the
FDA. if its regulated and taxed just like regular cigs, i think the "big tobacco" companies will soon release their own e-cigs and they will be of a controlled quality and specification, dont fear change, embrace it, not everyone and everything is out to get us... well most of us ;D
You're the one that's dreaming. First, the FDA does not normally do studies. That process is the duty of the manufacturer. The FDA did not declare the e cig as a drug delivery device and a smoking cessation product for no reason. They want a manufacturer to come forward and go through this process. This is a 10 + year process. The best you will end up with is a nicotrol 4mg, pv. That creates a vapor. No mfgerer is going to do that.
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I hope they will be legal someday
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Originally Posted by
Kempton
Nicotine, like alcohol, caffeine or chocolate is a nice substance, just as nice as "the action of smoking". And of and by itself can be very beneficial. Remember the smoke kills, not the nicotine.
If this leads to the fda taking away my chocolate, because it perks me up and makes me feel better Im gonna go crazy...Chocolate Rocks!
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Originally Posted by
llcoolbeans
I am only just starting vaping and I already quit cigarettes. I have no interest in nicotine. I want to be able to smoke, without the adverse health effects. I still crave the action of smoking, but have no use for nicotine.
What's the big deal, why do you feel you need the nicotine? Sure quitting smoking is hard, but the nicotine addiction is gone in 72hours. Yea, that's an uncomfortable 72hours, but big deal. If I had a
PV at the time I quit, with no nicotine, I would have had a much easier time.
We're all different, Coolbeans. And the way our bodies crave nicotine or react to its withdrawal also varies. I'm really glad that you were able to quit smoking and that you now enjoy a nic-less PV. Fantastic. But that was your personal goal and your choice. For a variety of reasons, some people don't want to quit nicotine. Others might like to be free of the addiction but have tried lots of methods (including your "72 hour" cold turkey suggestion) with no success.
I vape on the street and during breaks at work. I've encountered a range of reactions to my PV over the last few months. Most folks are just curious about "that thing you're smoking." Most analog smokers want to know whether it "really works" or not--meaning, whether it actually delivers enough nicotine to keep me off the burning leaf. Every so often, I also run into a sanctimonious ex-smoker. They can't resist the urge to tell me that they quit without the benefit of any patch or gum or hypnotist or PV gizmo and all it really takes is "will power." Life is hard enough. Here in this forum--of ALL places-- I hope we can resist the impulse to judge one another for the choices we make. Peace and happy vaping to you, friend.
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