12 days left before the ban of sales in CA! in Campaigning; Originally Posted by TheUltimateG
Email sent. Also faxed him and plan on calling directly tomorrow
Here is the fax and ...
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Originally Posted by
TheUltimateG
Email sent. Also faxed him and plan on calling directly tomorrow
Here is the fax and office numbers
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916-445-2841
Fax: 916-558-3160 ( new number )
Good job posting that info. Now I guess we all have to wait, so we can hear how that phone call goes.
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Originally Posted by
cordless
This is the dumbest thing i ever herd of.. You can never ban a e-cig its just a electronic vaporizer., but you can regulate the sale of nicotine products if you choose to by selling it by prescription only.. that way u get the drug company's and doctors involved $$$ . O then you got from a cheap source of smokes to a very expensive and cost prohibitive product that makes smoking analogue cigs very attractive.. So California wants us to buy tobacco products and not replace them with very cheap e-cigs.. What a wonderful idea.. take something thats better for you and cheaper for you and drive it into the ground.. Good job California.. they deserve it .. California is full of those bleeding heart liberals ..
you are either very very new or a troll. you do realize that the fda is in the process of doing the exact same thing nationally? by the end of this week it may become illegal to import and sell e-cigs and e-juice, pending resolution of the SE vs FDA court case (which again should come this week).
As far as the bleeding heart liberals go... they tend to favor personal freedoms more than extreme conservatives. That's kinda the difference between liberals and conservatives (high personal freedom and lower capitalist freedom vs lower personal freedom and high capitalist freedom).
I think the "bleeding heart liberals" are the ones we have to beg to make this problem go away
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Originally Posted by
callousparade
As far as the bleeding heart liberals go... they tend to favor personal freedoms more than extreme conservatives. That's kinda the difference between liberals and conservatives (high personal freedom and lower capitalist freedom vs lower personal freedom and high capitalist freedom).
I think the "bleeding heart liberals" are the ones we have to beg to make this problem go away
You can't be serious. Lefties support more government control, oversight, manipulation and intervention in/around your personal life. Righties believe that the government should have as little control as possible over the lives of the governed.
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Sent faxes to Sacramento and Fresno.
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E mail complete!
Thanks for all the info guys.
Warming up fax machine now...
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@Ţornbjörg : I suggest that you do NOT encourage people to state that the FDA is doing this at the request of Big Tobacco.
Whether or not this IS the case is up to debate. However this DOES make the writer sound a little tinfoil hat, if you ask me.
I would suggest that those that DO choose to write (you all should be) simply tell their stories of how this product has HELPED them quit traditional tobacco cigarettes.
Also suggesting that the FDA should continue their studies of the product as an alternative to traditional cigarettes and not as cessation tool can only help our cause. This is NOT a contradiction to the statements you have made above in the letter, as ANY product can be used as a cessation tool. It is just not allowed to marketed as one with out approval and over-site.
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Here is my letter
Please veto Senate Bill 400.
I was a smoker for a little over half my life. For close to 15 years 1-pack a day was the norm for me. Even though I was an active smoker at the time, I supported clean indoor air acts. After all this was my habit, this was my addiction. Why should others need to pay the price for my convenience?
I now find that convenience is being used as a tool against the FIRST product that has given me some glimmer of hope in my fight to quit smoking. As I write this letter I have been SMOKE free for over a month. I have no strong urge to return to traditional cigarettes at this time. You maybe asking; why after only a month of abstaining do I feel this time is any different? I have tried all manner of cessation tools to quit and have NEVER felt that I no longer WANTED a cigarette. This is the very first product to give me such hope.
I find it convenience to use flavors as an argument to suggest that e-cigarettes are intended for children. I find it to be convenience to state that the devices have claimed to be cessation tools without thorough testing. After all, almost anything CAN be a tool to aid cessation.
Please ask yourself and your fellow members of state why a tool that has given hope to hundreds of thousands of smokers be BANNED without thorough investigation!
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Got mine in!
Come on Arny don't let us down!!
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