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Wisconsin Status in Campaigning; Ive never been prouder to be a wisconsinite I especially like how its not "oh dear god! An Ecig?!?! your ...
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    Ive never been prouder to be a wisconsinite

    I especially like how its not "oh dear god! An Ecig?!?! your going to be inhaling anti-freeze in our precious smoke free businesses!! not on our watch!"

    I too will be printing this out thanks for the update Scottbee

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    I wonder now that it has been brought to their attention if they will not make an ecig ban as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottbee View Post
    As most of you Wisconsinites know, a "smoking ban" will be put into effect in July of next year. This will effect your ability to smoke in businesses including bars and restaurants.

    A co-worked of min EMAIL'ed our state officials to ensure that this would have no effect on those of us who partook in the joys of PV's....
    That's good news! I just hope SmokeFree Wisconsin doesn't start campaigning against PVs once the fight over smoking is over here! They are being duped along with other organizations:
    SmokeFree Wisconsin: E-cigarettes: the latest ploy by Big Tobacco to hook kids

    http://smokefreewisconsin.blogspot.c...igarettes.html

    I posted a comment, let's see if it gets approved:
    Please, please, please don't oppose electronic cigarettes(ie. Personal Vaporizers)!!

    Remember that the FDA is easily strong-armed by politicians in Big Tobacco and Big Pharma's back pockets. The tobacco companies WANT e-cigs banned, because they KNOW it's a less dangerous alternative and therefore a threat to their bottom line. By opposing e-cigs, you are being manipulated into being on the side of the tobacco companies!

    Just look at the facts. The FDA found "trace amounts" of the SOME of the things found in tobacco cigarettes. Their "spin" was that they weren't "safe." If they were really looking out for US citizens, they would have said, "WOW! These ONLY have trace amounts of adverse ingredients found in tobacco cigarettes. That's a great improvement!"

    Why the negative spin?? Who does it REALLY benefit?

    Smoke free Wisconsin should be FIGHTING for the acceptance of electronic cigarettes as, at the very least, a SAFER alternative to tobacoo - both for the ex-smoker and those around them.

    Electronic cigarettes aren't meant to be a 100% safe alternative nor are they meant to entice young non-smokers. Nothing in this world is 100% safe. But they are 1,000 times better than tobacco and that says something!

    Using a parachute isn't 100% safe, but it's much safer than jumping out of a plane without one, right?

    Don't be duped! Big tobacco (and Big Pharama) are just looking out for their own interests and are lobbying hard to get e-cigs banned and they count on well-meaning groups like Smoke Free Wisconsin to believe the hype and do their dirty work for them. I know you're better than that - don't oppose e-cigs and you'll save a lot more lives!!

    Ex-smokers using these wonderful alternatives are pleading with you to see through the FDA/Big Tobacco rhetoric!
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    Thank you so much for sharing this information with us, Scott. I live near Wausau and I, too, will be printing this out and carrying it with me at all times.
    Hey, We're in Antigo! Howdy neighbor!
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    I'm hoping pleading with them vs. yelling at them will have some kind of impact!

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    Wow, we got something right. Now back to the table on the reciprocity with MN.
    I'll take my nicotine without the carcinogens, thank you very much.

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    Wisconsin seems to be very vape-friendly. There was even a vendor selling ecig kits at the state fair, there. And, I openly vaped in the main vendor bldg at the fair every day without any issue from the fair management or the public (aside from two other vapers spotting me, that is )

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    Do we put shades on our LED's?? Can't be lit, in more ways that one!!
    Scottbee, that was a nice breath of fresh air, THANKS! Got mine printed, will have it laminated and stick it up on my visor, and just smile when I look at it.
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    Hi Kristin! We lived in Antigo for 10 years!!! Small world here at ECF. We go back there frequently as I still have a brother who lives there, plus, I miss that area, dang it all!

    Outwest, you are correct about this being a vape-friendly state. Other than the occasional curiosity from smokers wondering what I'm using, I never get hassled using my pv in public. Seems everyone is happy that it is what it is and, on the whole, they all basically commend me for quitting analogs. Anyone who knew my analog habit cannot believe that I dropped it so easily with the aid of these wonderful devices and, hopefully, I have helped many find their way to a cleaner lifestyle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristin View Post
    That's good news! I just hope SmokeFree Wisconsin doesn't start campaigning against PVs once the fight over smoking is over here! They are being duped along with other organizations:
    SmokeFree Wisconsin: E-cigarettes: the latest ploy by Big Tobacco to hook kids

    SmokeFree Wisconsin: FDA tests indicate that e-cigarettes pose a health risk

    I posted a comment, let's see if it gets approved:



    Hey, We're in Antigo! Howdy neighbor!
    Kristin: I also posted educational and politically correct (diplomatic even!) comments on both blogs. Like you, I'll see if they actually get published.

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    If you look at the SmokeFree WI blogs, you'll see that the headlines read that e-cigs are a ploy by Big Tobacco to get kids hooked on cigarettes... !!!

    How ill-informed and moronic can they be? If anything, Big Tobacco hates PV's!

    SMokeFree appears to have some unthinking zealots in their ranks.

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