How to beat the FDA: A case study

[Thulium]

Oh my gosh by the way and most importantly ....Thulium, thank you so much for bringing this case to our attention. I would love to see this as a little guy overtrumps big guy movie in hollywood....

You know, that is a really good idea. This story would make an excellent "based on a true story" film. I'll mention this to some of my filmmaker friends. Anyone here good at writing a screenplay? If we wrote it, we could tell some of the e-cig story as well.

[ckc]

Thanks Thulium, i hadn't realised that they were classed as 'drugs'.

[Dorian_Gray]

if the FDA still may have accomplished it apparent goal...the protection of the assets of their "sponsors".

It appears as if Life Extension was put on hold 'till other companies could bring out their competing products.

I could be all wet, but, that's the way it appears to me

[Thulium]

Thanks Thulium, i hadn't realised that they were classed as 'drugs'.

From the article:

At the beginning of 1991, the FDA deceived the Arizona Board Of Pharmacy into thinking the nutrients you use every day are "unapproved new drugs", and that the sale of these "drugs" had to be stopped immediately!

[seminolewind]

This article/thread is excellent. Is there a possibility that basing our argument with the gov on legal aspects rather than the classification of an ecig might be a better strategy? I'm not saying that classification and safety of ingredients are not strong arguments. However, they've already made one legal blunder-spreading false statements.And Spreading false statements has had a major impact on the way society sees e-cigs and vapers. I'm sure there's more to come.

[seminolewind]

If smokers are giving up the worst deadly addiction in their lives with the help of an alternative that works for them to become healthier, why on earth would they choose a method detrimental to their health?

[larry1970]

Im gonna have to print this one out and read it all when I get a chance....thanks for posting !

[oldlady]

Seems to me it would be worth a shot to get in touch with these guys. Their support for our "cause" couldn't hurt, could it?

[frazzledglispa]

Good for LEI.

The FDA is one of the most corrupt organizations in the US. This is not an isolated incident. A few years ago they raided some cherry farmers. Why? Recent studies have shown that the consumption of cherries can ease arthritis pain. The companies dared to site the research on their websites and packaging.

The FDA declared the cherries to be an unapproved drug, raided them, seized the crops, and destroyed them.

Cherries.

They recently threatened action against General Mills for stating that Cheerios can help lower cholesterol. Now, granted, you have to eat a lot of Cheerios to have any effect, and you would be better off eating rolled or steel cut oats, but that wasn't their issue. Their issue was that General Mills was advertising Cheerios as a drug. Which they obviously were not.

However, the general stance of the FDA is that no fruit, vegetable, grain, herb or vitamin has any beneficial effect on the human body. Only drug created in laboratories (or synthesized from a fruit, vegetable, or grain - statin drugs are a great example of this - big pharma synthesized them from chemicals occurring naturally in red yeast rice - then patented them) can possibly help with diseases.

The FDA exists to protect Big Pharma, Big Tobacco, Dupont, and Monsanto. There is an almost constant exchange of personnel between Monsanto and the FDA. You want to talk about an evil corporation - Monsanto. They want nothing more and nothing less to control the food supply of the entire world, and will stop at nothing to get it.

The FDA says it is okay for BPA to leach into our food, that you can't advertise the health benefits of fruits and vegetables, that cigarettes are legal, but e-cigs shouldn't be. GMOs are just fine, and mercury in vaccines are just dandy.

Personally, if something is approved by the Federal Death Administration I try to avoid it. It doesn't mean that it is safe, it doesn't mean it has been thoroughly tested, it just means that a large corporation wanted it sold.

Look into the link between the banning of Stevia and the introduction of Aspartame. This has been going on for a long long time, and it needs to stop.

We deserve an organization that will protect the health interests of the American people, not the profits of Big Pharma and the Agri-Business conglomerates.

Sorry, I don't mean to hector and lecture, but this is a topic that really gets me going!

[oldlady]

Now that you mention it, I can remember signing petitions and what not several years ago when the FDA wanted to ban people from consuming herbs and herbal supplements.

Its contention was that growing herbs in your yard and using them to make teas, soaps and whatnot could be "dangerous." Again, the medicinal properties of many herbs have not been scientifically tested and validated--by the FDA.

Some fool had actually proposed legislation to that effect. As I recall, the bill died in committee.