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Halcyon · 11-05-2009, 04:41 AM

I can only hope that he will put some actual thought into it and see it as a safer substitute and realize that thousands of us are using it instead of poisoning ourselves with analogs. Well, hope and write a letter. I wrote both of my Senators in Virginia today about how the PACT act could directly affect our FREEDOM to choose a safer alternative should the FDA deem e-cigs a tobacco product due to the nicotine being extracted from tobacco.

Are you all giving E-Cigs a voice too, or just talking on forums your politicians will never lay eyes on before voting?

Fight the ban.

doots · 11-05-2009, 04:44 AM

Do you think he would be truthful?

MHR7331 · 11-05-2009, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by doots

Do you think he would be truthful?

Couldn't be any less truthful than Bush.

Halcyon · 11-06-2009, 07:42 AM

After much thought (and I say this jokingly) Obama couldn't possibly have tried vaping yet. If he had, he would've already had a press conference urging the manufacturers to seek FDA approval. He would love it.

dubnluvn · 11-06-2009, 08:13 AM

somebody should mail him one...or five.

Surf Monkey · 11-06-2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by umop apisdn

Which is why California is the closest state to legalizing marijuana. They get the work done by petitioning their reps that are closer to them than The White House.

Exactly. These things build steam from the ground up, not from the top down.

Surf Monkey · 11-06-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

After much thought (and I say this jokingly) Obama couldn't possibly have tried vaping yet. If he had, he would've already had a press conference urging the manufacturers to seek FDA approval. He would love it.

LOL

If only it were that simple.

tinstar15 · 11-06-2009, 11:17 AM

Sending anything to the Prez would probably be pointless. The Secret Service would probably take the package and dispose of it without him even seeing it.

"Uhhh sir, I got a box here that's addressed to the President with a metal box filled with batteries, tiny wiring, and its attached to a liquid filled capsule".......it'll probably end up in a bomb disposal tub.

Even if it didn't, it would probably end up destroyed by whatever process they use to make sure it doesn't contain something bad.

Besides, if you want to impress a politician it better have a million dollar "campaign contribution" check attached.

kyivish · 11-15-2009, 08:42 AM

The fda is not and should not be compared to nazis. Only ruthless murders with bigoted ideals should be compared to nazis. The fda is like a pendulum, a force is applied to one side and the fda swings a certian way. Its out of control organizations like ash.org that are pushing around the fda. What the vaping community needs is an equal or stronger force pushing back.
I'm not cynical enough to believe that educating the public is pointless. When two lawyers are arguing in court and one gives misinformation what should the other lawyer do? Call the lawyer a nazi? Yell out america has lost its freedom?

kyivish · 11-15-2009, 08:45 AM

Now that I think about it has anyone out there thought of hiring a lawyer to defend ecigarettes? I'm sure there are plenty of constitutionist lawyers out there who'd love a chance at defending americans freedom as a consumer.

11-06-2009, 08:13 AM	#45
dubnluvn Full Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ventura, Ca Posts: 103	somebody should mail him one...or five. __________________ Vape Star - Personal Electronic Vaporizers

11-06-2009, 11:17 AM	#48
tinstar15 Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 41	Sending anything to the Prez would probably be pointless. The Secret Service would probably take the package and dispose of it without him even seeing it. "Uhhh sir, I got a box here that's addressed to the President with a metal box filled with batteries, tiny wiring, and its attached to a liquid filled capsule".......it'll probably end up in a bomb disposal tub. Even if it didn't, it would probably end up destroyed by whatever process they use to make sure it doesn't contain something bad. Besides, if you want to impress a politician it better have a million dollar "campaign contribution" check attached. __________________

11-15-2009, 08:42 AM	#49
kyivish Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: colo sprgs Posts: 66	The fda is not and should not be compared to nazis. Only ruthless murders with bigoted ideals should be compared to nazis. The fda is like a pendulum, a force is applied to one side and the fda swings a certian way. Its out of control organizations like ash.org that are pushing around the fda. What the vaping community needs is an equal or stronger force pushing back. I'm not cynical enough to believe that educating the public is pointless. When two lawyers are arguing in court and one gives misinformation what should the other lawyer do? Call the lawyer a nazi? Yell out america has lost its freedom? __________________ Aim for the heart Ramone

11-15-2009, 08:45 AM	#50
kyivish Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: colo sprgs Posts: 66	Now that I think about it has anyone out there thought of hiring a lawyer to defend ecigarettes? I'm sure there are plenty of constitutionist lawyers out there who'd love a chance at defending americans freedom as a consumer. __________________ Aim for the heart Ramone

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11-05-2009, 04:41 AM	#41
Halcyon Full Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 29	I can only hope that he will put some actual thought into it and see it as a safer substitute and realize that thousands of us are using it instead of poisoning ourselves with analogs. Well, hope and write a letter. I wrote both of my Senators in Virginia today about how the PACT act could directly affect our FREEDOM to choose a safer alternative should the FDA deem e-cigs a tobacco product due to the nicotine being extracted from tobacco. Are you all giving E-Cigs a voice too, or just talking on forums your politicians will never lay eyes on before voting? Fight the ban.

11-05-2009, 04:44 AM	#42
doots Super Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Near Austin, Texas Posts: 1,119	Do you think he would be truthful?

11-06-2009, 07:42 AM	#44
Halcyon Full Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 29	After much thought (and I say this jokingly) Obama couldn't possibly have tried vaping yet. If he had, he would've already had a press conference urging the manufacturers to seek FDA approval. He would love it.