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    heh, this reminds me of the Temple 420 out in California, who are trying to do the same thing with their preferred (unmentionable here) "sacrament" saying it is legal for them because of their religious views

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    This could very well work. It could be an athiestic religion. (Meaning no focus on a specific god, but more of a spiritual religion, similar to Buddhism.) That would solve any issue that I'm sure many religious fanatics would bring up. But also, make it compatible with other religions, making it not an exclusive religion, not promoting any higher powers or worship of anything one doesn't feel is god, but promoting your own god, whether it (he/she/He up to you) is a god of a religion, the e-cig itself, your self, the universe, or society.

    The basis of using vapor instead of smoke in the OP's argument is pretty sound. You're promoting your life and those around you while not restricting what makes you happy. Which, I'm not sure, but isn't the pursuit of happiness part of the Constitution? If so, they have no legal basis for banning these in the first place as long as nicotine is an unregulated drug. It's sad that the government isn't responsible for it's own actions and that while legally they can't do it, they will anyway. It really makes you wonder about society when people heavily consider creating a religion to go through legal loopholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valhalla1 View Post
    heh, this reminds me of the Temple 420 out in California, who are trying to do the same thing with their preferred (unmentionable here) "sacrament" saying it is legal for them because of their religious views
    Rastafarian-ism, but for some reason they won't listen.

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    Another idea: (sorry for the 3 posts in a row)
    It could be a religious tenant to forbid the inhalation of smoke, and the use of NRTs, and tobacco, but allowing nicotine (possibly as a ritual) in the form of vapor to somehow create a loophole requiring e-cigs to be available to the members. The supreme being could be the "advance of society and human technology" in which ever form one feels best represents it, allowing personal choice and avoiding conflicts with other religions, which wouldn't be too far off from scientology (do they even have a god? Not sure.). PVs could fall within those bounds.

    I'm sure if you founded the religion without mentioning e-cigs once or showing any compelling interest, it could work.

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    The other key difference between this and Temple 420 or Rastafarian-ism is that we wouldn't be trying to make something legal that was illegal beforehand, but more like the use of alcohol (or tobacco, for that matter) for religious purposes applied as a defense against prohibition.

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    Now that Thulium, is thinking outside the flip-top box!

    Om...vape...Om...vape

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