Iran: Nukes, good; e-cigs, bad

[Frankie]

These days, nations respond better to action than to words.

I believe Chengis Khan was among the first to voice this brilliant idea.

[Reign]

The media was all up on Obama being the First Black president not for which party he represents, He Won so the media won , but in your eyes because he is BLACK then America lost, now that blatant Racism to me, maybe i was getting close to a nerve.....

Actually the media wasnt that fixated reporting-wise about him being the first black president. You didnt hear too much of that flying around as a matter of fact.

The media(which caters to democrats) was supporting his party and constantly either bashing republicans, or ignoring them altogether.

As an Illinois resident years back, I voted for Obama in the senate race. His campaign was great and had alot of fresh ideas. During his time in the senate...he did very very little. Then running for president, I supported him as I did not know too much of McCain other than his POW status. After months of campaigning, and hearing very little specifics on what kind of "CHANGE" Obama was going to bring into his office, it started to sound more and more like his senate run.

Now that he has been voted in, he is breaking out with some specifics that even people who voted for him are kicking themselves for. On top of that, he's putting people into advisor positions that he recently had called "ignorant" and "incompetant".

So if not liking a candidate based on the agendas at hand is racist, then color me guilty. Otherwise, you made an extremely assuming and ignorant post about things you know nothing about. Had I voted for him ONLY because he was black would have been wrong too. What difference does it matter what color he is when he proves to be worthless in the position?

[ApOsTle51]

Actually the media wasnt that fixated reporting-wise about him being the first black president. You didnt hear too much of that flying around as a matter of fact.

Maybe not your side of the pond but over here from what i saw it was all about the possibility of the US having it's first black President.

The media(which caters to democrats) was supporting his party and constantly either bashing republicans, or ignoring them altogether.

As an Illinois resident years back, I voted for Obama in the senate race. His campaign was great and had alot of fresh ideas. During his time in the senate...he did very very little. Then running for president, I supported him as I did not know too much of McCain other than his POW status. After months of campaigning, and hearing very little specifics on what kind of "CHANGE" Obama was going to bring into his office, it started to sound more and more like his senate run.

Now that he has been voted in, he is breaking out with some specifics that even people who voted for him are kicking themselves for. On top of that, he's putting people into advisor positions that he recently had called "ignorant" and "incompetant".

So if not liking a candidate based on the agendas at hand is racist, then color me guilty. Otherwise, you made an extremely assuming and ignorant post about things you know nothing about. Had I voted for him ONLY because he was black would have been wrong too. What difference does it matter what color he is when he proves to be worthless in the position?

how the hell i was supposed to get all that from:

Sure they are...Obama was elected. Media won. Americans lost.

i'll never know.

still , i've finished playing with the forum troll now i don't want to say something i later regret.

[Reign]

Maybe not your side of the pond but over here from what i saw it was all about the possibility of the US having it's first black President.


how the hell i was supposed to get all that from:

i'll never know.

still , i've finished playing with the forum troll now i don't want to say something i later regret.

You shouldn't have needed to get anything from my comment other than I voted for McCain and think Obama was a bad choice...you went ahead and made the assumptions which showed your flawed thinking on the subject.

[deewal]

Getting back to Iran and Nukes it is no secret that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for Israel to be wiped off the map, and Israeli intelligence estimates that Iran could be two years away from having a nuclear weapon. When the leader of a sovereign nation makes unequivocal statements without domestic opposition, those statements serve as the basis of national policy. It is critical to note that Ahmadinejad's statements go beyond opposition to Israeli policies, he is speaking of Israel's very existence.

So Ahmadinejad is only kidding is he?

The USA won't Nuke Iran. The Jewish Nation will never forget The Holocaust and will not allow it to happen again. If they are threatened with being wiped off the map they will make sure that their enemies are too no matter what the West think or want.
US Presidents ? Pussycats when compared with Hitler and Stalin.

If Britain had got the Bomb first Churchill would have dropped as many as possible on Berlin without a second thought.
The people of Britain were dancing in the streets when they were told the Atom Bomb had been dropped on Japan.

[trog100]

give a monkey a machine gun and sooner or later he will shoot some bugger..

give a human a bomb and sooner or later he will bomb some bugger.. which dont say lot about monkeys or us lot does it..

and when it does happen i recon both a few monkeys and humans will be dancing in the street which also dont say a lot for either species..

monkeys with a brain.. end result kaboooom.. sooner or later...

moslem monkeys or christian monkeys a monkey is still a monkey.. and the cleverer he gets the more dangerous he gets.. kahbooooom... he he

trog

ps... and for whats its worth it has been said the real reason those bombs were dropped on japan was to show the russians exactly what would happen to them if they didnt behave.. a simple demonstration of american power..

[Dr. Russell Fell]

Yes Trogg, the dropping of the A bomb had little to nothing to do about "saving American lives" from the war. It was just a gesture to remind the rest of the world who the world super power was now.

As for saying that the media is "liberal" and "democrat-run," that's just a plain fallacy; one that seems to be repeated more times than it should. The fact is, all major media outlets are owned by major conglomerate corporations. Like any power struggle, there will be differences in opinion and some in-fighting, but the major goal is always the same; democrats and republicans alike.

[Reign]

The difference from what you said and from what Trog said is he mentioned something that had been theorized. You say it as if it 100% fact as if you were there and advised the president on what to do, how to do it and why. Only a fool talks in absolutes.


I will say its definitely plausible that part of the dropping of the bomb was to show capability to our other foes, but to say it had nothing to do with "saving american lives" is absolutely rediculous.

You probrably also beleive the levies were detonated in New Orleans and we shot a missile into the world trade center dont you?

[trog100]

its also been said certain people claimed we are fighting the wrong side during WW11...

pattern i think wanted to carry on and wipe the ruskies out there and then.. a few years later a lot more would have agreed..

very interesting alternative "truths".. but its the winners who get to hold the war crime trials and write the history books.. which is why i dont believe a word of it.. he he

none of us know for sure thow do we.. we as a race tend to pick the truths that suit us..

trog

[deewal]

You never know trog. It might have actually happened in one of the alternate universe's all around us.
btw Did you know there is a conspiracy theory that Patton was killed by a O.S.S operative because he wanted to carry on and take out the Russians sooner than later and that too many people agreed with him including Churchill ?