Iran: Nukes, good; e-cigs, bad

[Dr. Russell Fell]

America! **** yeah!

[Reign]

Originally Posted by dc2k08

ahh, i see, the 1945 government of my country is culpable for the deaths of a quarter million japanese civilians. hadn't heard that position before. I can see why i didn't pick up on it. it is a stretch.



You have ? someone better tell bush (who i cry about being in power). could help his presidency.

If you stand by and watch a clearly wrong act in progress against another person, and do nothing about it, you are just as wrong as the person commiting the act. Sorry, but just because your country didnt pull the trigger doesnt mean it is innocent.

Originally Posted by ApOsTle51

DC give it up , just look at reigns avatar to see where his feelings on the '45 nukes are .

Grim reaper standing infront of the jap flag.....hmmm

Heh, didnt notice that 'til now...pretty good one Perfect timing for it too.

Originally Posted by trog100

just to add fuel to the fire.. saddam had to go cos he was tooo western and tooo technical.. sadam was turning iraq into something the western powers could never permit.. a highly advance scientific arab nation.. one that would finally left to its own devices have enough power to threaten a certain nuclear armed US outpost in the middle east...

the bottom line being no arab nation must be allowed to have the technical power to threaten the middle eastern western dominated status quo..

first it was iraq under sadam.. now it is iran.. others will come.. unless the western powers prevent them in one way or another..

we in the UK are just as guilty as those in the US... we all p-ss in the same pot where middle eastern policy is concerned..

all very simple.. all very certain..

trog

I agree. I am not saying that what the US did was "right" to japan. Tactically it was genious and caused post-war japan to initiate stands against ever creating nuclear armament. The death toll showed why.

War is hell...Ive been there, done that. You do what you can to keep yourself alive and kill as many of them that are trying to kill you. Human nature isn't to be peaceful so hopes of world peace and a Utopia wont happen.

The facts come down to Saddam was a bad person breaking many laws. Bush is a smart person acting like an idiot trying to be smart...getting away with bending laws. Saddam needed to be taken from power. He was. Bush needed to be removed from office, his term is up.

For people to stand on their soap box and act all high and mighty is plain absurd. There is not a single "innocent" country in this world.

[dc2k08]

how a poor fledgling backwater government on the outskirts of europe was supposed to be privy to the outrageous schemes of the world's forth-coming superpower is beyond me and to imagine that they had within them the power to avert the most destructive act of war this planet has known is preposterous and egregiously naive.

nevertheless, this all detracts from the main argument. Iran has been accused of desiring to develop nuclear wepons. This view has been widely propagated by their detractors to such an extent that it seems to be widely considered a fact.

The government of Iran on the other hand have continually insisted their nuclear program is peaceful and that they wish only to develop nuclear technologies in order to produce electricity and join the list of 36 other nations spread out accross the globe which do the same. They have signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and other treaties repudiating the possession of weapons of mass destruction.

looks like they have taken the same stance on e-cigs.

[Bertrand]

Originally Posted by Dr. Russell Fell

America! **** yeah!

Coming again to save the mother****ing day!

[Reign]

Originally Posted by dc2k08

how a poor fledgling backwater government on the outskirts of europe was supposed to be privy to the outrageous schemes of the world's forth-coming superpower is beyond me and to imagine that they had within them the power to avert the most destructive act of war this planet has known is preposterous and egregiously naive.

nevertheless, this all detracts from the main argument. Iran has been accused of desiring to develop nuclear wepons. This view has been widely propagated by their detractors to such an extent that it seems to be widely considered a fact.

The government of Iran on the other hand have continually insisted their nuclear program is peaceful and that they wish only to develop nuclear technologies in order to produce electricity and join the list of 36 other nations spread out accross the globe which do the same. They have signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and other treaties repudiating the possession of weapons of mass destruction.

looks like they have taken the same stance on e-cigs.

With that mentality, how can any type of change ever take place?

Or is it just that your government has never been in the position to have to make decisions like that? So in your whole rationale, if the situation was reversed, It would have been completely different and you would have submitted to the japanese instead of launching the 1 weapon that would bring them to their knees and create a more neutral Japan in the long run.

Yeah, that would have been a great decision by your governement. Thank god for your sake, your country has never been in that position.

[dazyrue]

I just really dont understand why these are getting banned!!

Cigarettes arent banned.
Alcohol isnt banned.
Guns arent banned.

Why e-cig??????

[dc2k08]

again, you are skirting the issue.

[Reign]

Originally Posted by dc2k08

again, you are skirting the issue.

The issue to me is your stab at the US. If your country was being invaded tonight...I wonder who would be called on for help....and I wonder who would offer it before it was asked of them.

[dc2k08]

This is also non-related.

[Reign]

Originally Posted by dc2k08

This is also non-related.

Now who is avoiding the issue?