Iran: Nukes, good; e-cigs, bad in Campaigning; I am sure they'll heal.....with time....and a good vape....
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I am sure they'll heal.....with time....and a good vape.
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If a logician walked in on this argument, I think their heads would implode from the level of INVALID.
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Originally Posted by
Dr. Russell Fell
If a logician walked in on this argument, I think their heads would implode from the level of INVALID.
i think the first typicality American post started the ball rolling..
why typically American.. cos only an american would be brassed necked enough to condemn another country without due thought for simply wanting what their own country has an abundance of and without proof..
DC a little too politely picked up on it.. why.. cos he aint an american..
but this is what the new concept of pre-emptive attack is all about.. rightly or wrong stopping such things from happening..
a question once ask of Israel.. "what will you do when the the Arabs have a bomb".. the answer... "that is a situation we could never permit to happen"..
the rest follows on from there..
right and wrong dosnt exist.. only sides..
trog
Last edited by trog100; 12-19-2008 at 08:52 PM.
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I am proud to be an american. Things you may consider faults, I consider strengths. There is a time for talk and a time for action. I would rather be too late to talk than be too late for action.
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Trog, I'm just not bothered continuing the conversation. there is no point, he is just going to continue to go off on tangents. It's a waste of my time. If George Galloway was a forum member, he would probably see the cause to continue. I'm not bothered talking to a wall. I've got better things to do.
If America bans e-cigs, will there be a thread titled: "America: nukes, good;e-cigs, bad" ?
No there won't. Yet this is a country that does have nuclear weapons and is the only country that has ever used them in an act of war. It's double standards.
It is also deflating that this post was made by such a well informed, educated and much admired forum member but perhaps it was a mistake. perhaps it was more of a jest. perhaps he is used to picking eye-catching headlines, I don't know.
Of course Reign wants to accuse me of anti-Americanism. I don't hate Americans. i would say ~50% of my best friends are Americans. some of them are serving in the current war as i write. I have lived there for half a decade and I know there are many who feel the same way as I do.
I know first-hand that Americans are not stupid. they can see through the crap, just as anyone else. They know what the propaganda machine tries to do. I am not having a rant at Americans. but it's all to easy to accuse me of this and twist the conversation. i am not going to partake. but the record needs to be set straight.
So, I'm out. made my point. That's all i wanted to do. didn't think this would turn into a 2-dayer.
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and allah ackbar to that DC
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Originally Posted by
Reign
I am proud to be an american. Things you may consider faults, I consider strengths. There is a time for talk and a time for action. I would rather be too late to talk than be too late for action.
Could you explain exactly what that means?
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deleted due to some peeps possible lack of humour.
Last edited by ApOsTle51; 12-19-2008 at 11:57 PM.
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Originally Posted by
PeteMcArthur
Could you explain exactly what that means?
"Things you may consider faults, I consider strengths."
= I am a narcissist.
"There is a time for talk and a time for action. I would rather be too late to talk than be too late for action."
= Kill people and then justify it.
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Originally Posted by
dc2k08
Trog, I'm just not bothered continuing the conversation. there is no point, he is just going to continue to go off on tangents. It's a waste of my time. If George Galloway was a forum member, he would probably see the cause to continue. I'm not bothered talking to a wall. I've got better things to do.
If America bans e-cigs, will there be a thread titled: "America: nukes, good;e-cigs, bad" ?
No there won't. Yet this is a country that does have nuclear weapons and is the only country that has ever used them in an act of war. It's double standards.
It is also deflating that this post was made by such a well informed, educated and much admired forum member but perhaps it was a mistake. perhaps it was more of a jest. perhaps he is used to picking eye-catching headlines, I don't know.
Of course Reign wants to accuse me of anti-Americanism. I don't hate Americans. i would say ~50% of my best friends are Americans. some of them are serving in the current war as i write. I have lived there for half a decade and I know there are many who feel the same way as I do.
I know first-hand that Americans are not stupid. they can see through the crap, just as anyone else. They know what the propaganda machine tries to do. I am not having a rant at Americans. but it's all to easy to accuse me of this and twist the conversation. i am not going to partake. but the record needs to be set straight.
So, I'm out. made my point. That's all i wanted to do. didn't think this would turn into a 2-dayer.
when you generalize america as a "big baby" and is the country who does all the "foul crying". It is obvious that you are being anti-american. I think its out of more jealousy than anything else though.
You say its all too easy to accuse you of this. Why is this? Well, because its true. I did not twist the conversation at all, I quoted multiple times your comments and you refuse to comment on them. You just ramble along acting like your country is perfect and you can throw all the stones at others that you wish.
Yes, there is a double standard. We hold the power so we can create as many double standards as we wish. All you will do is complain about it which makes it easy for us to keep our power. So wheres the crying coming from again? 
Saying you have american friends is like me saying I have alot of black friends if someone calls me a racist. Its the response most used when a person is called out on something they did or said.
You can keep your powerless government, Ill stick with the Americans. At least we have a history of using weapons when they are needed to prevent the loss of AMERICAN life over the loss of ENEMY life.
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