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billyboy689 · 12-31-2008, 02:35 AM

if the government cannot easily get there share of tax out of it
they will ban it
money hungry useless f@#$%^&ds
seems to be the way our country is going

Magarnagle · 12-31-2008, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magarnagle

The measures are part of the Tobacco Control Strategy, which aims to cut smoking rates by 20 per cent by 2013.

Does anybody else see the irony here?

lucisac · 12-31-2008, 02:37 AM

The ban follows the release of the Brumby Government's Tobacco Control Strategy 2008-2013, which aims to reduce smoking rates by 20 per cent.
The new regulation, which comes into effect tomorrow, outlaws the manufacture, sale, supply, purchase, possession or use of unregulated nicotine delivery systems.

Ban on battery-powered smokes | theage.com.au

Di · 12-31-2008, 02:40 AM

I think aussies should organize a mass protest letter here.......

or a mass of protest letters......

Di

dc2k08 · 12-31-2008, 02:41 AM

nice letter trumpy, I'm sure many of us could use it as a good template when our own elected pull the chain. bookmarked.

I'll be asking if they're going to ban tea and coffee too.

Magarnagle · 12-31-2008, 02:41 AM

Nicely worded Trumpy.

My understanding is that when an MP receives official correspondence, they have to respond to any of the questions asked. It'll be interesting to see his response, let us know if you get one.

Trumpybloke · 12-31-2008, 02:49 AM

A follow up email to him also

"
The new regulation, which comes into effect tomorrow, outlaws the manufacture, sale, supply, purchase, possession or use of unregulated nicotine delivery systems.

The decision will have no effect on the sale of nicotine replacement therapies, which are used to assist people stop smoking."

As quoted from the Herald Sun website

Apparently at Midnight tonight I , presently a law abiding citizen of this state , will become a criminal in your eyes,

Happy New Year, it appears my government in their wisdom wishes me to assume a criminal state or return to being a harmful purchaser of tobacco . I know you will be saying " O.K. Mr Willson ... then quit !!! " but as your own reports will tell you , an addict FORCED to quit by another party seldom will achieve their aims.... I chose to be a healthier consumer, you appear to choose me to be an unhealthier one... I feel that you in doing this have failed to meet your obligations as Health Minister .

Cheers
Simon Willson

Magarnagle · 12-31-2008, 02:52 AM

This has all seemed to come out of the blue somewhat. It appears quite sneaky to rapidly bang this through without any fanfare on new year's eve. I guess they're hoping it'll pop right under the radar.

Di · 12-31-2008, 02:54 AM

I know we shouldn't
but dammit,
they want to ban the one thing that is actually achieving their goal........

most people, many people, who are using these e-cigs have quit tobacco cigs,
and many will quit nicotine over time,

the incidence of quitting in % I would like to see.

I bet it is a lot better than all their patches and gum.

Di ......

Magarnagle · 12-31-2008, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magarnagle

From tomorrow, the sale and use of nicotine cartridges will be illegal in Victoria and the advertising of battery powered cigarettes banned.

Does this mean that juice will still be legal?

12-31-2008, 02:37 AM	#13
lucisac ECF Veteran Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 173	*The ban follows the release of the Brumby Government's Tobacco Control Strategy 2008-2013, which aims to reduce smoking rates by 20 per cent.* The new regulation, which comes into effect tomorrow, outlaws the manufacture, sale, supply, purchase, possession or use of unregulated nicotine delivery systems. Ban on battery-powered smokes \| theage.com.au __________________

12-31-2008, 02:40 AM	#14
Di East Mall Representative Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia & China Posts: 3,671	australians unite I think aussies should organize a mass protest letter here....... or a mass of protest letters...... Di __________________ To Your Own Self Be True Di East Mall Representative**

12-31-2008, 02:41 AM	#15
dc2k08 4mer 4um Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: .ie Posts: 1,812 Tweet this post!	nice letter trumpy, I'm sure many of us could use it as a good template when our own elected pull the chain. bookmarked. I'll be asking if they're going to ban tea and coffee too. __________________ E-cig News \| On Twitter \| On Reddit

12-31-2008, 02:49 AM	#17
Trumpybloke Super Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Australia , in a little town you never heard of ..population 12 !!! Posts: 440	A follow up email to him also " The new regulation, which comes into effect tomorrow, outlaws the manufacture, sale, supply, purchase, possession or use of unregulated nicotine delivery systems. The decision will have no effect on the sale of nicotine replacement therapies, which are used to assist people stop smoking." As quoted from the Herald Sun website Apparently at Midnight tonight I , presently a law abiding citizen of this state , will become a criminal in your eyes, Happy New Year, it appears my government in their wisdom wishes me to assume a criminal state or return to being a harmful purchaser of tobacco . I know you will be saying " O.K. Mr Willson ... then quit !!! " but as your own reports will tell you , an addict FORCED to quit by another party seldom will achieve their aims.... I chose to be a healthier consumer, you appear to choose me to be an unhealthier one... I feel that you in doing this have failed to meet your obligations as Health Minister . Cheers Simon Willson __________________ The best things in life are never really free and sometimes you have to be patient

12-31-2008, 02:54 AM	#19
Di East Mall Representative Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia & China Posts: 3,671	I know we shouldn't I know we shouldn't but dammit, they want to ban the one thing that is actually achieving their goal........ most people, many people, who are using these e-cigs have quit tobacco cigs, and many will quit nicotine over time, the incidence of quitting in % I would like to see. I bet it is a lot better than all their patches and gum. Di ...... __________________ To Your Own Self Be True Di East Mall Representative**

12-31-2008, 02:35 AM	#11
billyboy689 Manufacturer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: south australia Posts: 170	if the government cannot easily get there share of tax out of it they will ban it money hungry useless f@#$%^&ds seems to be the way our country is going

12-31-2008, 02:41 AM	#16
Magarnagle Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 38	Nicely worded Trumpy. My understanding is that when an MP receives official correspondence, they have to respond to any of the questions asked. It'll be interesting to see his response, let us know if you get one.

12-31-2008, 02:52 AM	#18
Magarnagle Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 38	This has all seemed to come out of the blue somewhat. It appears quite sneaky to rapidly bang this through without any fanfare on new year's eve. I guess they're hoping it'll pop right under the radar.

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