What Will You Do If Ecigs Becoming Regulated And Taxed?

[tonyph]

has somebody who is wary of legislation and the future economic situation I got in a couple of years supply of e-juice, atomisers and batteries. I was one of those who do not exspect e-juice to be banned but it dosnt stop me been prepared. For the economic situation e-juice may be a better investment than gold.

[slianfoxob]

I just realized that I apparently can't put a simple question together. lol. "ecigs becoming regulated?" yikes.

I don't think I can edit the title to say "become." can a mod?


Foxy

[K-Sound Krew]

YES!!!
I get to be the only A-hole to go back to Analogs.
I just had one and it was gooooood!


Well I shouldn't say I will go back to the real ones, it's all speculation as to how and when, but if we can go a year before the government starts Funking with us, I'm sure I will go through the phases, stop analogs, go to 0-nic-liq; so maybe by the time the Ship hits the fan I will be ready to say "Peace out mother funker, I'm out"

[Tetsab]

This is all getting TOOOOO scary, isn't it?

Part of me hopes e-cigs will get recognition for the benefits they can provide and then get caned no more than they already are - Excise Duty and VAT in England is certainly being paid by us if we're buying from the legitimate and non-cowboy suppliers. I'd assume the same is true in the US with sellers like Cash and so forth. I've always been an idealist <sigh>.

Back in the real world the cynical but realistic part of me wouldn't be at all surprised if liquid gets banned thanks to the nannies and bureaucrats, and even less surprised if that then leads to exactly the problems which already exist with any other prohibited substances.

To whit - instant black market, entry of organised crime into the game, no quality control whatsoever, contamination causing death or illness which has to be treated by the NHS (which will not receive any funding from the sales as they won't be taxed) and criminalisation of us vapers.

As long as it wan't banned I'd probably bite the bullet and pay up with very bad grace, but by choice I'd be an 'other' - cooking my own 'moonshine' e-liquid!

There could be an alternative - a kind of reversion to something the Sixties culture had by way of a newspaper called International Times. This marvellous organ used to do things like publishing a full set of accurate laboratory instructions for making your own .... It also provided down-to-earth real-world advice on how to avoid having problems with the recreationals of your choice, and so of course it got into loads of trouble and doesn't exist anymore.

However, the 'Net might prove itself yet again a fount of knowledge which couldn't easily be suppressed. I'm hardly keen to start growing potatoes and peppers to process into juice (must upgrade my 'O'-level chemistry skills first) but if I have to I will. Can't realistically see the drugs squad raiding every allotment in the country...


Love and peace to all and a very Happy New Year
Think positive!!!!!

[Lithium1330]

We could all get together and create a secret factory.
Who's in?

I'm in!!!

Anybody wants to experiment on DIY e-liquid with just VG, Flavor and CAFEINE?? I'm getting some cats to test it!! JK

[MasonM]

Frankly I'll go the black market route. Isn't that how the Kennedy's made their money?

[Myk]

Assuming all works as planned (to quit cigs but keep a convenient nicotine delivery system as a prevention to going back to cigs again),

Fairly taxed I'll keep on buying. But outrageously taxed I'll stockpile some 36mg and only vape as needed to keep off cigs.
I'll still have my pipes. Keeping unused batteries for a rainy day may pose a problem but I'm pretty inventive.

With the drug paraphernalia laws and their flops I don't see any regulations touching the equipment. As swanee said you market them as a different product.
Even though there's been talks of taxing pipe tobacco they never mention the pipes. And if there ever was, they're now bubble pipes.

[TropicalBob]

Want a glimpse of us underground? Read the first post in the old thread, On the Road to Crack Nicotine:

On the road to Crack Nicotine?

[tonyph]

excelent article TB. . We have worries now about the quality control of the chinese, see what the criminals can achieve. I am not sure if there is a big enough market for nicotine liquids for real criminals to get involved, but making it illegal may produce the market. I know people are talking about homemade has a cottage industry for the benifit of themselves and friends. Thats how many of these things started, I am old enough to remember when people though about recreational drugs that way and the shock of finding that the people who were taking control were not that interested in peace & love

[Bellinghamster]

I find it almost impossible to believe that regulation and taxation is an option in the U.S. It's the only logical process, and therefore inconceivable to our gov't. If anyone in Congress had a brain or a spine, we would have abandoned our failed "War on Drugs" years ago and started treating addiction, educating kids, and reducing prison overcrowding by releasing non-violent offenders who were made criminals by our government for making choices that affected no one but themselves.

Government seems to have the notion that "banning" somehow correlates to "eliminating". All it does is drive up the price, lower the quality, endanger the end purchaser, overload the legal system, and drive all the $$$ into the hands of criminals - rather than allowing entrepreneurs to make an honest buck while collecting enough taxes to offset any costs associated with research and regulation.

Happy populace + functioning government? I guess I'm dreaming...

But I'll vote for purchasing taxed and regulated vaping anyway