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    And the frightening thing is also just how 'world-wide' the hegemony of this group has become... let's hope something of those old times returns as quickly as possible.

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    I wanna see the reply to this.....if he dares.

    Quote Originally Posted by sherid View Post
    Here was my email to Bob, the editor.
    Gee, Bob I thought you people in the anti-smoking cartel were opposed to smoking because of second-hand smoke. These electronic cigarettes produce no shs. I thought the anti-smokers opposed smoking because of the "4000 carcinogens" in the smoke. E Cigarettes produce no smoke and no carcinogens. I was under the impression that you and other rabid anti-smokers opposed smoking in bars and other private businesses because you were "protecting the workers" Electronic cigarettes produce no shs to "harm" the workers. I thought the anti-smokers opposed smoking because it made their hair and clothes all yucky, necessitating a shower and all. There is no smell to electronic cigarettes. I guess I was wrong in my understanding about anti smokers opposition to smoking, since this opinion piece clearly states that what you really want is to CONTROL smokers, and an invention such as the e cigarette puts a crimp in that. It makes the anti smokers have to go back to the drawing board to find new reasons to oppose electronic cigarettes. As a journalist, you might try going to some more reliable sources than a mall kiosk worker next time you want to diss something. It doesn't look like good journalism when that is your only source, you know. Go to www.e-cigarette-forum if you wish to actually begin to find out what e-smoking is all about. Meanwhile, we can only hope that the FDA does not rely on a mall kiosk operator as its only resource when investigating this issue.
    Cheese graters could also be marketed and sold as sponge ruiners. Think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate View Post
    ...'iwe are free thinking, responsible adults.

    Unfortunately we are so right wing and authoritarian in politics that there are no popular options for less authority and control.
    I'm with you on this . Grown up people should be able to enjoy adult pleasures without governmental interference. And I know a lot of other right-wing people who would agree with me (the left do not have a monopoly on freedom).

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    Apologies Expipeman, you are correct of course. It's not a matter of right and left, it's about authority and anarchy.

    Right and left are economic markers mainly and I didn't mean to cast a vote for one or another. Sorry for the inaccuracy.

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    Since I live in Portland I decided to had to post a response..... mostly because he was making comments about the kiosk at the mall selling e-cigs.. and figured it was a get opportunity to at least suggest that people to do their research before buying from Smoking Everywhere at the mall!

    I'm not so good with words... but this was my comment there:

    Several weeks ago at the mall I saw the "Smoking Everywhere" kiosk selling the electronic cigarettes. I had never heard of e-cigs, and thought they were a "brand new thing" only available through this company. As a cigarette smoker for 35+ years -- knowing I should quit -- I was quite fascinated with the e-cig and purchased one, despite the hefty $149.00 price. I certainly don't need to smoke everywhere, and never did... and though I can thank "Smoking Everywhere" for introducing me to the e-cig "idea" -- after getting home and researching online I found there are much better e-cigs available at 1/3 of the price they charged. I ordered a better e-cig online, and have now been TOBACCO FREE for 1 week! I will never go back to tobacco (unless these manage to get banned) and I'm feeling wonderful!! I plan to slowly cut the nicotine down to zero, and hope to quit nicotine all together eventually. Unbelievable that now the anti-smoking folks will try to find fault with smokers choosing e-cigs -- which cause NO harm to others! Why don't you all go save whales or something!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate View Post
    Apologies Expipeman, you are correct of course. It's not a matter of right and left, it's about authority and anarchy.

    Right and left are economic markers mainly and I didn't mean to cast a vote for one or another. Sorry for the inaccuracy.
    No problem Kate . As responsible adults we can make mistakes - it's just that Governments are now trying to remove that option. Soon I will have to wear a Chairman Mao suit and work for 18 hrs before going to the feelies...

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    As they are calling it a tobacco product, what exactly does this have to do with Ecigs I would ask them. There is NO tobacco, so why even consider regulating it? Nicotine is found in many other things naturally as well as tobacco leaves. Should we outlaw cabbage etc? The last few posters have it correct though, this isnt about your health or anyone elses, its about control, period.

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    What's the feelies Ex?

    Hey, HDBanger, I noticed that you've been talking a bit about bans. You might be interested in the details of how the Australians were hit. They're not officially allowed liquid nicotine now. - Australian ban; Egar illegal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate View Post
    What's the feelies Ex?

    Hey, HDBanger, I noticed that you've been talking a bit about bans. You might be interested in the details of how the Australians were hit. They're not officially allowed liquid nicotine now. - Australian ban; Egar illegal

    I read about that couple days ago, shook my head in disgust. But, that is Australia, where they have already taken most gun rights etc, same for the UK. Here in the states, they have not and will not be able to do the same, they will try, this I know, but fail they will. It's already getting favored reviews on national TV shows, by Doctors even, not quite the thumbs up, but def positive. Unless someone can show it to be harmful in some other way other than just nicotine addiction, they dont have a chance here, its catching like wildfire.Like I said in a previous post, the biggest threat to esmoking in the good ole US of A is the tobacco companies/lobbyists. They are losing their asses right now with the new FSC cigs, now this catches on, they are doomed and they know it.

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    [QUOTE=Kate;84973]What's the feelies Ex?/QUOTE]

    "Brave New World", Aldous Huxley. An essential read.

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