NJ Senate passes bill to restrict e-cigarettes in Campaigning; Originally Posted by rothenbj
Apparently they weren't as proud of their crusade as they once were. The video has been ...
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Originally Posted by
rothenbj
Apparently they weren't as proud of their crusade as they once were. The video has been removed. Is this an election year for them?
Yep. Every single member of the NJ Assembly and Senate is up for re-election this year and they are SCARED OUT OF THEIR WITS. The election of a Republican gov. last year, coupled with the loss of the Kennedy Senate seat earlier this month, has the DEMOCRAT political machines in this state running scared.
NJ politicians are the most corrupt in the country. They are in bed with BIG PHARMA (1,500+ pharmaceutical companies headquartered here!), not to mention the other special interest groups they have to answer to. Neither one can afford the loss of revenue that would result if NJ smokers suddenly quit smoking tobacco and switched to e-cigs. You will see a HUGE change in the law if and when Pfizer, J&J or GSK figured out a way to take control of this product.
The only way to stop the is GRIP - Get Rid of Incumbent Politicians. Elect people who will represent we the people and if they fall into bed with the speical interests, well, GRIP them too. Then and only then will NJ politicians put US first.
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(Had to remove the links cause I'm too new
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Thanks for posting this.
The most disgusting thing is the fact that the legislature rushed this bill through BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IS IN THE VAPOR!? I found out fairly easily by going online. How stupid can they be?
Every time I hear a politician proclaim we're doing this for the children I want to throw up. NJ politicians don't give a hoot about kids. All they care about is padding their pensions and cozying up to Big Pharma.
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Originally Posted by
TheBoogieman
Heres the video:
The Boogieman
thanks brother
im still too new
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As to why the Senate passed the Bill:
New Jersey Senate Democrats :: Gordon/Vitale Bill Banning Indoor Public Use Of 'E-Cigarettes' And Sale To Minors Signed Into Law
“With all of the overwhelming statistics on the hazards of smoking, the e-cigarette is nothing more than an attempt by the tobacco industry to reinvent itself as a healthier alternative,” said Sen. Vitale (D-Middlesex)
“This is yet another victory for public health,” said Sen. Gordon (D-Bergen). “No matter how manufacturers attempt to market these devices, they are still cigarettes. In many ways, they may be more dangerous than traditional cigarettes because of their lack of oversight or any conclusive studies into their health effects.”
The Doc seems to think their shmucks. I agree!
The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: New Jersey State Senators Tell Public that Electronic Cigarettes are More Dangerous than Regular Ones; Call E-Cigarettes a Tobacco Industry Ploy
I sent the link to all assembly and senate members. For some reason I never heard back from them. Maybe send it to the new Gov. and papers next.
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e-cigarette's are just starting to catch on here in Missouri Around the Springfield, Republic and outlining areas, I bought a 510 kit for my 22 year old for Christmas and then turned around and and ordered myself one a month later...I'm impressed,,,Ive been tying to talk my sister who has a number of smoke related health issues into making the switch I really hope they do not try to out law the sale of them, they are so much cheaper after the set up cost and no second hand smoke is a bib plus for parents with small children' or a spouse that don't like the stench
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when i called the governors office the day after it was passed, asking for information about what can i do since i had no clue about it. She admittedly stated ignorance is no excuse! Can we use this as well? If they are misinformed how can they just pass a bill stating you cant do this?
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Originally Posted by
xxspikexx
when i called the governors office the day after it was passed, asking for information about what can i do since i had no clue about it. She admittedly stated ignorance is no excuse! Can we use this as well? If they are misinformed how can they just pass a bill stating you cant do this?
Unfortunately, people pleading ignorance after-the-fact is the last thing NJ politicians have to worry about. They got it passed. Its passing was based on a lot of powerful anti-tobacco lobbyists trying to protect their purse. Unfortunately that's the way things work in politics.
Of course the law does not state that you can't use this device, just that you can't use it in indoor public spaces.
Some states' intrenched financial interests, under the guise of "protecting the children" etc, panicked faster than others. NJ is on the bleeding edge of this panic.
Why, you ask? Have you ever driven down the Route 202 corridor between Flemington and Somerville? I did lots of times. I used to live there. The highway for some 8 to 10 miles is utterly flanked on both sides with huge glass towers of Pharmaceutical might. The NJ politicians are protecting those interests from the advent of the e-cig, which allows smokers to quit smoking real cigs far more easily and enjoyably than any patch or gum product created by those industries. Pharma Lobbyists Panic = Politicians Panic = Law Quickly Written Under Public Radar. 
What we can hope for, as users of e-cigs, is that laws (or interpretations of laws by other gov't agencies) created by states to ban e-cig usage on such a broad scale will eventually be nullified and written out of law if the final ruling in the federal court case (Judge Leon) goes in our favor.
In the meantime, you can still enjoy your e-cig in the privacy of your home or on public streets. You can still protect your personal health.
Last edited by ChipCurtis; 01-29-2010 at 05:27 PM.
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[QUOTE=ChipCurtis;984654]Unfortunately, people pleading ignorance after-the-fact is the last thing NJ politicians have to worry about.
Unfortunately, the people pleading ignorance ARE the NJ politicians.
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