11-28-2010, 03:48 AM
Originally Posted by Bones
I think y'all are trying to convert the already converted...
Originally Posted by Surf Monkey
xaxphaanes isn't saying, "This is why eliquid should be banned.", just that this is the justification that will be used. Think about it - picture the people you've met at work or just out socially. Unless these people are using PVs, do you think they won't vote for a super tight restriction on eliquid?
What about when they run commercials asking, "Who do you want walking around with cotton candy flavored bottles of poison in their pockets? Your babysitter? Your kids' teachers? Vote yes for prop <WHATEVER> and give your children a chance to live."
Yes, it's stupid, but I've learned to never underestimate the stupidity of the voting populace. The only phrase that's as sure a sign that somebody's getting screwed as "God told me to do it" is "Do it for the children".
Sure they would vote down a ban on dishwasher detergent (or whatever potentially poisonous household chemical you want to use). You know why? It affects them. PVs? Not so much. Unless there is a satisfied PV user in their immediate circle of influence, they won't give a rat's ass if eliquid gets banned.
As far as the original question:
If the sale of eliquid gets banned, it's too late to think about stocking up. Even if you think PVs are the wave of the future and will get full FDA approval next week, one thing's guaranteed: even in that pie-in-the-sky, best case scenario, the government is going to be looking to replace the revenue they're losing from a former smoker. What would be the most convenient place to look for that revenue replacement in this case?
In other words, even if things go as well as possible from our POV, you're looking at the prices of eliquid shooting up to 5-10 times what it costs now (this cost increase will also apply in the worst case scenario that has people setting up ejuice black markets). Also, I'll go out on a limb and predict that with full approval from the FDA, they will severely limit the flavors that can be sold.
Whether you think eliquid is going to become the new meth or you think PVs are on the way to full FDA approval, dropping a couple hundred bucks on half a gallon of unflavored juice would be a wise decision because either way the price of nic liquid is poised to skyrocket as soon as a legal decision is made.
11-29-2010, 02:17 PM
I personally wouldn't stock up. Purchasing pot seeds online is illegal but yet there are reputable seedbanks who sell seeds online & ship them stealthy to the united states. I would think e juice suppliers would package juice stealthy & ship them to the united states that way until enough orders get confiscated & they find its not worth while to ship to the states anymore.
11-29-2010, 03:40 PM
They are banned in Australia, right? Anyone here from Oz still getting supplies? I agree that there will always probably be a place to get them, but it would put a huge dent in demand.
12-05-2010, 05:13 AM
I would use the remaining product I have to cut the nicotine down and wing myself off it. I am not going to speculate on what our government is going to do. I do know if they try to rape me with taxing it I'll quit vaping and I will always remember it was vaping that led me to quitting analogs. It hasn't been all that long since I have put down cigarettes but I am to the point where I cannot stand to smell them anymore. I will tell anyone who will listen about vaping and hopefully they quit and have a healthier life. I have a couple friends placing orders this week. Word of mouth and pointing people in the right direction will give us a voice when the time comes. When we have those anti-vape campaigns running on the television, I hope someone tells our side of the story. It will be a bad thing if greed kills vaping.
12-06-2010, 01:13 AM
They are not going to Ban E-cigarettes. They will eventually regulate the liquid.
Regardless, to stay in the groove with the subject of this thread, I wouldn't panic or stock-pile anything. I would just log on to the ECF read what will be TONS of posts with suggestions on the "get around" of what ever stunt the FDA tries to pull.
Last edited by Petrodus; 12-06-2010 at 01:23 AM.
12-07-2010, 07:05 PM
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12-10-2010, 04:45 PM
quoted for truthiness
Originally Posted by Petrodus
12-10-2010, 05:10 PM
I just got my first real e-cig. If they were banned I would start stock piling. As a matter of fact I think I'll start very soon. I stupidly purchased a smoke51. I got my ego today and I love, love, love it. I'd buy as many batteries and atomizers as I could then as much nic juice as possible too. I don't see why the gov should ban these wonderful devices.
12-10-2010, 05:38 PM
In my opinion if the big tobacco companys are so worried, why don't they get off their behinds, get with the program and start making some ecigs too.
12-10-2010, 06:41 PM
Imagine what they'd charge!!! I can see it now, Marlboro E-cig: carts on sale - only $60 for a cartridge of 5. On stocking up, how long can you keep the e-juice for? Does it expire? DIY maybe be the way to stock up, idk. But hapily, on Dec 7th the FDA lost an appeal to ban the e-cig, so we'll see where it goes from here. I would like to know how to extract or buy nicotine, everything else you need for e-juice is at the grocery store.
Originally Posted by Trulee
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