Just to show you that making "healthier" claims does attract unwanted attention in Campaigning; excerpt:
The bottom line is that Smoking Everywhere is being sold as a cigarette and "healthier" alternative to traditional cigarettes ...
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Just to show you that making "healthier" claims does attract unwanted attention
excerpt:
The bottom line is that Smoking Everywhere is being sold as a cigarette and "healthier" alternative to traditional cigarettes and is not encouraging smokers to quit.
posted by DC Tobacco Free Families Campaign at their google group page
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i think it is funny that they are an Anti-Tobacco group who will, or is, flipping out.
"Think of life after the jump." -Dustin Hardy-
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I read that she was really put out over our not wanting to quit.
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Correct.
Many -- perhaps a majority -- of anti's want cigarette smokers to quit or die. There must be no other choice. No life-long use. No recreational use of nicotine. It's NRT or nothing when it's time to leave cigarettes in the past.
And, as sure I'm cold in Florida tonight, they will scream loud to governing agencies to ban this dangerous, addictive, attractive alternative to the Killer Cig, whose demise they covet.
Opposition is only beginning. The slumbering are waking up .. to us.
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I guess it makes her feel powerful to bash us like that. That mostly what the Anti's are about in my book, they don't care about my health they just want to have their way. They want to be in CONTROL.
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Marketing definitely needs to improve. The false claims to make an extra buck need to stop. This is also another reason why we need to call these Personal Vaporizers instead of cigarettes. E-cigarettes are fast becoming another way for antis to direct their hatred of cigarettes. We're cheating the system and it's making them mad. Throwing out mistruths isn't helping.
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Is this someone that Kate should ad to her list to contact? I know that DC Tobacco Free is the opposition, but maybe having RTV approach them, it might be better than letting them freak out any further than it appears she already has???
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Maybe Lacey. I agree that someone needs to set the facts strait. Good idea
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I wrote this email to the poster.
I read your posting and was curious as to why you would misrepresent electronic cigarettes to your group. First, and most importantly, electronic cigarettes contain NO tobacco. They contain liquid niotine....actually many e smokers choose 0 nicotine to vaporize.....but again they contain NO tobacco. Why do you say "you have to purchase the tobacco cartridge" when that is clearly untrue. Then, you say that these devices cost "a little over $200....again NOT TRUE. Most electronic cigarettes range from $30-60...a far cry from $200, yet you make it appear that this is the cost. It is curious that when a new and hopefully healthier alternative to regular cigarettes enters the market, you mention only that it will not force smokers to quit. I thought your groups were mostly about "protecting people from secondhand smoke" This product produces no shs. The fact that it does not come from a pharmaceutical company seems to be a point of contention in this notice. I find that curious since Big Pharma created Chantix, and we all know the scourge that drug has brought to thousands who have suffered the side effects of this drug. Rather than promote your ideas with the misrepresentations in your posting, why not look at electronic cigarettes for what they are: an alternative to smoking that has no tobacco, produces no secondhand smoke, and costs less than $50. Telling the story truthfully would help. Thanks in advance for correcting the inaccuracies in your posting.

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dc2k08
"Deja Moo : The feeling you’ve heard this bull before !"
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I just joined the group.. not sure if I would get approved or not, we'll see.. I think a lot of us need to try to join and get in to give a true insight of what these devices truly are..
To me they are a lifesaver... I have never been able to quit in the 25yrs of smoking.. I'm into my first month and I feel so much better, I don't even crave an analog.. I thought about it at first, but in reality it was because it was a habit of looking for them on my desk or whatever.. I've even cut down on my vaping and really do think that I will eventually quit all together one day...
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