No online ordering?

[TropicalBob]

Check out what Utah is proposing as law. I said awhile back that the goal of current legislation is to drive all tobacco product sales to the local tobacco store, where taxes can be collected and products controlled.

This proposal would ban Internet ordering of all things tobacco (and e-cigs could be added with the addition of a few words). No, no one has explain why. The explanation is simply "control."

Other measures awaiting passage would stop postal delivery, stop alternative delivery via FedEx, UPS, etc. to all but business addresses, stop use of credit cards for purchase of tobacco products, and complicate insurance for any business selling tobacco products (insurance companies fear lawsuits against sellers, not just makers, of deadly products, like suits against bartenders who let a person drink too much before driving; no law is needed for this, and it's already happening to small tobacco stores).

The new "anti" rallying cry: If we can't ban it, make the hassle unbearable.

Bill urges stiff fine, prison for ordering tobacco online - Salt Lake Tribune

[Vince1]

Hi Bob, So as it is now the proposal only indicates "tobacco" products? This could be a harbinger of doom if it goes further. I wonder how much the local smoke shops will want to get our juice for us?

[katink]

Wasn't there a government proposal underway to book all use of money-transfer on internet, for everything - so they can get to whatever person buys whatever they don't like? Or was that still in the planning and not actualy in the gov.-pipeline yet?

[TropicalBob]

Right. Tobacco is still the target for most laws, including this one. E-cigs aren't there yet -- thankfully. I think many of us see the anti-tobacco tactics as a harbinger of things to come for us, however. In a way, the less we look like "smoking," the better for our future.

Katink: I'd heard of that but dismissed it as "will never fly."

[smokingclam]

Well this would certainly suck. I purchase all my pipe tobacco online due to the fact the local shops don't carry blends I like. I could see making you pay the tax on it but to ban it all together?

[section817]

ill believe it when i see it...

[MikeMac]

Is that bill in the US Senate or Utah Senate?

The article doesn't say.

The Nanny State strikes again!
(or at least is trying) It's all about TAXES! TAXES, TAXES! $$$$$

As an aside; I used to get Marlboros from Andorra or Lichtenstien for a good deal. Until my friend's shipment was confiscated by US Customs. I stopped doing that. Besides, I would really go through the analogs fast knowing I had 10 cartons lined up.

[TommyGunBC]

Utah is a messed up state , influinced by a crazy religon !!

[TropicalBob]

This is a Utah proposal for forbidding online ordering. The other proposals on shipping, etc., are national in scope.

SmokingClam, I too have ordered various latakia blend pipe tobaccos online, but I see what's coming -- quite clearly -- and have now settled myself into Carter Hall, which I likely will be able to buy at a local tobacco store for the rest of my life.

Sure, it'll cost more soon ... but at least I'll have it.

[smokingclam]

For what its worth I quite enjoy Prince Albert in the can. For the price you can't beat it. Unfortunately I'm a man of variety and need different blends. I enjoy the GL Pease and Dunhill brands the most. Funny part is I used to live in NY land of the high tobacco tax. That's where I order my pipe tobacco from on the web....tax free of course.