Just An Idea

[nicowolf]

There is a lot of talk in many different places on the forum these days about the government agencies and their jurisdiction over our gadgets. It seems to be that the connection to nicotine liquid is the real sticking point.

My thought: What if we got the manufacturer's to do away with the starter kits and sell us parts instead. We can put together our own starter kits. If a Chinese manufacturer or distributor were to send us packages marked batteries, heaters, and moutpieces, we could get them through customs with no problems so long as that was the actual contents. If you break our devices down into components, without any liquid anywhere, isn't that what you would get - a battery or two, a tiny electric heater, and a plastic mouthpiece with some stuffing in it that looks like packaging?

We would have to devise another way for the liquid, but the potheads have been getting around it all for ages, there is a way somewhere.

You all can ponder this and I'll check back, but I don't want another debate full of legalese. I just wanna get us all thinking slightly more outside the box - the starter kit box that is.

[Sun Vaporer]

There is a lot of talk in many different places on the forum these days about the government agencies and their jurisdiction over our gadgets. It seems to be that the connection to nicotine liquid is the real sticking point.

My thought: What if we got the manufacturer's to do away with the starter kits and sell us parts instead. We can put together our own starter kits. If a Chinese manufacturer or distributor were to send us packages marked batteries, heaters, and moutpieces, we could get them through customs with no problems so long as that was the actual contents. If you break our devices down into components, without any liquid anywhere, isn't that what you would get - a battery or two, a tiny electric heater, and a plastic mouthpiece with some stuffing in it that looks like packaging?

We would have to devise another way for the liquid, but the potheads have been getting around it all for ages, there is a way somewhere.

You all can ponder this and I'll check back, but I don't want another debate full of legalese. I just wanna get us all thinking slightly more outside the box - the starter kit box that is.

Nico--I have posted many times that "that Suppliers should sell them with ZERO nicotine in their starter packs, and then let people buy Nicotine cartridges and e-liquid under seperate cover"

Much harder to ban that if the issue goes to the nicotine---Sun

[ejfan1977]

I think that is a great idea! It's perfect for those of us who have some experience under our belts. Maybe they can be imported that way to the online vendors, then they can set up "starter kits" here in the states.

I think your are spot on also about the liquid, we can probably get around that one as well.

Good thinkin' NicoWolf! 5 gold stars for you!

[nicowolf]

yeah, I am thinking that if I could count on the devices getting through and getting marketed without problem, I just gotta stock up on juice to make sure there is enough to get through the eternal government approval process. It is much less expensive to stockpile one item than several.

[Sun Vaporer]

I think that is a great idea! It's perfect for those of us who have some experience under our belts. Maybe they can be imported that way to the online vendors, then they can set up "starter kits" here in the states.

I think your are spot on also about the liquid, we can probably get around that one as well.

Good thinkin' NicoWolf! 5 gold stars for you!

It is a very good Idea and I do not know why Suppliers will not take it up--If I was a Vendor, that would be the first thing I would do prospectively--Just like Steve calling his units personal vaporizers now--Wish they would take some good advice----or is there some rebuttle to selling starter kits with zero nicotine cartridges and the nicotine under seperate cover order?? I must be missing something ---Sun

[nicowolf]

I think somebody somewhere thinks I need or want those disgusting prefilled (pre-dried) carts that come in the starter kits. Taken individually, each part of our device is perfectly legal and can be demonstrated without liquid (it might mean burning up an atomizer for the demonstration, but take one for the team).

Suck on the end of a battery and it lights up the LED - maybe we could call it a mini flashlight. Hook up a dry atomizer to a mod like the magnum or the Juice Box and it will heat up when you press the manual switch. Empty carts are just plastic, nothing to demonstrate, we could even call them adult pacifiers (lol). If they are not packaged in retail boxes as a kit, they are interpreted individually and not as a unit designed to vaporize the dreaded nicotine drug.

[Chrissie]

Nico, it sounds like a brilliant idea, but what about newbies to e-cigs?

IMHO one of the most important things is getting as many new e-cig vapers on board as possible. I just feel that the more of us there are the bigger voice we will have.

[nicowolf]

Newbies can get all the info they need right here on the forum and on others like it. The suppliers here can help them through the sompatibility. All you have to do is google e-cigarette and you get a list of sites - this being one of them, and the best and most informative I might add.

[nicowolf]

It seems to me that we can go online, find all the info we need to build a bomb, go to the hardware store and a few other retail locations and get all the materials to build it, and go home and plot to blow up a school or a government office. Why not do the same with our gadgets? We provide the instructions as individuals, not experts or lawyers. The suppliers provide the parts and the juice - or ingredients for the juice.

All we really need is someone to work on the nicotine angle, either extraction methods or a way around the powers that be.

[Chrissie]

Nico, I know newbies can go on line & get all the info, especially from here & via googling

But there are still so many people out there that have never heard of e-cigs or if they have, don't think of looking for something like this brilliant forum.

I know when I first wanted to get to know more about e-cigs, last July, I did google them & yes I did find this forum. However ( now don't laugh ) I hadn't a clue what a 901 was & stupidly didn't dare ask. So I just went ahead & (luckily) bought my first e-cig from Pillbox.

Sorry for long post, but what I'm trying to say is that newbies have no idea of the jargon, so if they only came across atomisers or cartridges for sale, I think they would be even more confused.

To me the starter kits get most people interested in e-cigs (BTW one of my pet hates is suppliers selling them with only one battery - purely to make their kits appear cheaper than others).