Why shouldn't the FDA interfere?

[Bellinghamster]

Originally Posted by soylantgreen

FDA can't even keep salmonella out of peanutbutter

True, they're not perfect. But what would the state of our food and drug supply be if the FDA didn't exist at all?

[surbitonPete]

I just hope there will be enough intelligent people who will be able to see that rather than banning it..... which will be tantamount to condemning people to keep on smoking tobacco.......it would be far better to quality control it.

[breakfastchef]

Originally Posted by Calaban

Your original post was very well thought out and expressed, and I agree 100%.

Finally, another reasonable person with a well-thought out viewpoint. Good post, Calaban. As early adopters, we are all lab rats.

I hope the long term safety of our 'habit' is, well safe. The Chinese have killed pets, infants and adults in the U.S. with their tainted products. I, for one, would like to know that what I am ingesting is relatively safe. If that means some sort of regulation, well that is fine with me.

For those of you hell bent on blaming the tobacco and pharmaceutical industries for actions against e-cigs, I think you are way off base. I sincerely doubt the conspiracy theroy. Our hobby is way too small to have any significant effect on the balance sheets of those giganitc multi-national corporations.

Like Calaban, I am using e-cigs in an off-label fashion as my own smoking cessation therapy. Definitely cheaper than Nicotrol inhalers and way more fun. These damn things are changing my life. I want to preserve our right to vape and would participate in any way to ensure we get to continue using e-cig products. Even if that means subjecting myself to further regulation.

[TropicalBob]

Congratulations, Bellinghamster, for your original post. You are quite correct on all points. Well thought out and expressed.

[strayling]

Originally Posted by surbitonPete

I just hope there will be enough intelligent people who will be able to see that rather than banning it..... which will be tantamount to condemning people to keep on smoking tobacco.......it would be far better to quality control it.

I hope so too, but there are people out there who hate anything that looks like smoking with a passion and who regard using something like nicotine (but not caffeine for some reason) as a weakness to be eradicated. It isn't possible to have a rational discussion with these sorts and they have a nasty habit of getting into positions of power where they can impose their personal preferences on the rest of the world.

I'm ok with the camel poking its nose in the tent so long as its rear end doesn't follow and make a mess on the floor.

[Wildsky]

Originally Posted by Bellinghamster

True, they're not perfect. But what would the state of our food and drug supply be if the FDA didn't exist at all?

The FDA go the way of the $$$ for the most part. Give em enough money and you can probably get anything approved.

[Lorddrek]

An exellent post. I have been failing miserably trying to say the same thing with less than stellar results. We got quite a defensive crowd out there and it seems they have yet to find this thread. Well one day soon the FDA will word it quite clearly for us all...

Lorddrek

[MisterPuck]

Originally Posted by Bellinghamster

I do (among others), but who is validating those listed ingredients? Where is the testing and oversight? I'm not saying anything bad about TW, they are front-runners in the safety game and A+ in my book. I just think independent review is the only rational way to acceptance. It protects both us and them.

Do it yourself. Take your bottle down to your local college, not community or trade, a real college, walk into the science lab and ask them what's in it. Someone in there will take the time to find out. I have a meeting with a friend from OU tomorrow.

[Lorddrek]

Start to feel bad now for all those bunnies and monkeys getting E-Liquid drops in the eyes and under the skin...

Lorddrek

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

Originally Posted by Lorddrek

An exellent post. I have been failing miserably trying to say the same thing with less than stellar results. We got quite a defensive crowd out there and it seems they have yet to find this thread. Well one day soon the FDA will word it quite clearly for us all...

Lorddrek

Sorry to disagree with you, Lorddrek - but the FDA will word nothing "quite clearly." It's a government agency, nothing is ever short, sweet, and simple....there will be a 2000 page document with very tiny print that says absolutely nothing, costs a fortune, and will turn the entire thing over to a "govenrmentally approved subcommittee" to discuss the "ramifications and/or impact to the greater good."