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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrodus View Post
    I'm getting confused again

    The zealots want to ban E-cigarettes to save the children from the evils of tobacco
    but they are not interested in uniting to campaign to ban tobacco.

    Who's going to save the world from the zealots?
    Mark Twain said, "Nothing needs reforming so much as other people's habits."

    There was an excerpt from a new book, The Gift, by James Patterson in the one I just finished reading. This passage sent chills down my spine:

    Imagine that all things you love most in the world--and probably take for granted--are now banned. Your books, movies, art...all snatched away. Burned. That's life under the New Order, the so-called government--or brutal totalitarian regime--that's taken over this world. Now, with every waking breath, we have to fight for every freedom we have left. Even our imagination is at risk. Can you picture your government trying to destroy that? It's inhuman.


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    I've said it before, and I'll say it again;
    Keep your damn hands off my children.

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    I was watching the newer "Horton Hears a Who" with my daughter and there is a scene where Horton is trying to save the Who world from the nanny kangaroo. She starts getting the mob really going by claiming it's "for the children."

    What is happening to the jungle of Nool?

    There once was a time
    when people were people.


    And specks were specks.


    All I say it you can't see it, hear it,
    or feel it it doesn't exist.


    Our way of life is under attack.


    And who's leading that attack?


    Horton!!


    Whoa, whoa, whoa!
    Wait a minute!


    This is Horton we're talking about
    you'll know about him.


    He wouldn't hurt a fly.
    Except for that fly city he sat on.


    He didn't that on purpose.


    - Shut up, mouse.
    - Oh, Yeah. That's weired.


    I feel my brain is burning.
    I got to go.


    Are we going to let troublemakers
    like Horton poison the minds of children?


    Not the children!!


    When Horton tells our children
    about worlds beyond the jungle,


    it makes them question authority.


    Which leads to the fires,
    which leads to shocking!!


    Yeah!! Horton must pay!!


    Eat that speck!!


    We have to do something!


    - For the children!
    - For the children!


    Are we going to let him get away with this?


    No!!!
    Horton, Horton, Horton look at that mess
    you created for yourself.


    All this holible lure over us
    is silly little flower.


    It's a speck.


    Right.


    I mean a silly really all this talk of
    roping you and caging you and well


    we don't need to go into the details.


    The point is this angry mob
    of all a trouble you're in.


    It can all go away.


    - Really?
    - Of course.


    All you have to do is admit to everyone


    that there are no little people
    living on that speck.


    That you're wrong and I was right.


    You do that,


    and things can go the right
    back to the way they were.


    But, if you don't,


    You're going to have to pay the price.


    So I just have to say it isn't true?


    Go ahead! Rope me! Cage me!
    Do whatever you want!


    But there are people on this speck.


    And they have Mayor.


    Who has 96 daughters
    and one son name JoJo,


    Who all share a bathroom
    whatever that is.


    And even though you can't
    hear or see them at all,


    Person's a person,
    no matter how small.


    That was beautiful, Horton.


    Rope him! Cage him!


    Burn that speck in a pot of
    boiling pees on that oil!


    They don't believe we're here.


    We've got to make some noise!


    We are here. We are here. We are here.
    In the end, it was ONE final voice that made the Whos loud enough to hear and convince the jungle animals that they were real.

    Something I keep saying - don't think that you can't make a difference - sometimes all it takes is just one voice.

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    I think I understand the message here Kristin. The EPA is planning regulation that will require listening for voices from specks on leaves before we collect and burn them...... to protect the children?

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    Think she means inorder to fight the mob, we all could be that one voice on the speck.. But i could be wrong...lmao

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    don't think that you can't make a difference -
    sometimes all it takes is just one voice.
    kristin
    Don't be discouraged...thinking your voice
    won't make a difference.

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    People will use the "save the children" argument to further their own agenda (and get the public mob on their side) and it's up to people with integrity to speak up for what they know is right and don't hold back because you think your one voice can't make a difference.

    Dr. Seuss was a genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psl_shawn View Post
    in my opinion the number one cause for teenage smoking is having parents that smoke, so commen sence dictates the more adults you get off of analogs the fewer kids who will start smoking. where is the study on this?
    It's genetics (nicotine metabolism) and peer group. There are numerous studies on this.

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    FWIW: that article seemed more of an advertisement for this Satisfying Smoke starter kit product and less than an actual news article ..

    With that being said... it did spark up an interesting conversation.. so I moved this thread to where it is closely suited for


    LGD

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightgeoduck View Post
    FWIW: that article seemed more of an advertisement for this Satisfying Smoke starter kit product and less than an actual news article ..

    With that being said... it did spark up an interesting conversation.. so I moved this thread to where it is closely suited for

    LGD
    The "Commercial" article was not the topic, only source for the statistics

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