proof the FDA is 100% biased

[TropicalBob]

I devoted 45 years of my adult life as a writer/editor with the St. Petersburg Times and The Tampa Tribune. I know articles. I know editorials. I know amateur blog postings. And I know crap when I read it. And that's what I read in that piece.

Let's just continue the attack game because I haven't time for your crap, Marlin.

And, Fenez, you are right that what we think is of no consequence.

[radiokaos]

It's NOT an article. It a blog opinion piece -- with flawed logic at its root. Very amateurish at all levels.

The title of this thread is equally ludicrous. What "proof"? E-smoking could do better without this kind of sophomoric chest-beating.

100% agreed...I guess we should believe everything that on the internet.

Where are the clinical trials for the E Cig?

[fenez]

To be honest Tbob I am not nearly as well schooled as you guys on the subject but my thoughts on it are that since tobacco is regulated by an agency and nicotine is regulated by an agency it just stands to reason that e cigs are not going to slip through the cracks, one agency or the other will have to regulate them, what I think is happening is that some people just feel that it is unfair and become zealous with their arguments not realizing that they are clouded in their thinking.

[Mohave]

Bold type was editing added by me:

What we think is of no [relatively small] consequence unless of course you are willing to lay out all the money needed to fight them in court.

In my opinion, I also think that is most likely (not completely certain to me but most likely) what it comes down to. I do not think such a course of action would be hopeless, but it could not be done with spare change from the sofa by Uncle Harry the family lawyer, would carry an uncertain outcome, and could be rendered irrelevant by legislative action in the meantime.

[Vapor Fiend]

How is the FDA going to test if e-cigarettes are good or bad? They can't even test if regular cigarettes REALLY cause cancer. It's not like you can smoke all your life, die of cancer and start all over again, but this time not smoke and see if you don't get cancer...

Let the little children at phillip morris run the infants at the FDA, and let them do they're little tests. Just get it over with already. Tax the sh!t out of something that is supposed to revolutionize the way people smoke and help them quit. Take ANOTHER thing that can help people away from us you f'n bastards...

[skex]

As a foot note. The Constitution is clear about what it is for, and the basic concept in whole is to 1. Ensure Domestic Tranquility and 2. Provide for the common defense. There is nothing in it about deciding every facet of the peoples lives.

Actually you forgot about Promote the General Welfare. Oh and establish justice kind of forgot that part too. Form a more perfect union that too.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

[Skad]

Since I was a kid, I haven't been able to read the preamble without hearing this song in my head.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30OyU4O80i4

[marlin]

If the first 2 are kept, it basically ensures the latter, dosen't it?

[RayJ1]

Good lord.....over and over again with these same arguments. The mfr's toted these as smoking cessation devices and made direct comparisons that they are healthier than cigarettes. The product has nicotine in it. What is the FDA supposed to do? Pretend they don't exist? It's just a matter of due time where they will be pulled of the market here in the US. The only reason they haven't been done so sooner is because they are still small on the FDA's radar screen in comparison to much larger and widespread issues. The mfr's have had a "free" marketplace here for the past few years. They knew it and exploited it. They had no intention in getting the product approved and tested until they absolutely had to. Well....that time is nearing.