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    Post E-Cig safety confirmed by Medical Study!

    Could this be what we've been waiting for?

    Here is a link to the press release.
    Press Release - E-Cigarette Safety For Consumers And Bystanders Confirmed By Medical Study

    And a link to the reports found on Health New Zealand.
    Untitled Document

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    Default Damn.

    Wish we could have sent this information to the senate HELP committee a couple of days ago... Don't know if it will make a difference, but it seems to be quite amazingly positive.

    Now... does this mean that some of the bans will be re-thought? Health Canada... Austrailia... etc? Probably not, but it would be nice.

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    We need more of these reports.
    Thank you for posting.
    Bookmarked.

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    Oooo... very good find... combing through the Dublin handout I spotted this:

    An e-cigarette user will
    need to take more puffs more often, and deeper
    puffs confer no advantage for V8 users. Six puffs
    every 5 minutes would deliver the same dose of
    nicotine delivered by shallow inhaling (10 puffs of
    35 mL per puff) from one tobacco cigarette every
    hour, but would not achieve the high immediate
    nicotine boost which many smokers crave.
    Nicotine overdose is unlikely, even though
    nicotine delivery may vary between brands.

    Also... lots of good stuff on the vapor. Lots to read!
    e-smoker 4eva

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    "several hundred times safer" - quite possibly. Some toxins have been shown to be 1000 times less in vapor than in cigarette smoke. But not zero. We need to be careful when making statements.

    But some strange 'facts' and logic mentoned : " the operating temperature of an e-cigarette is only 5 to 10% of the temperature of a tobacco cigarette that they are, as a class of products, not likely to produce toxic substances in their mist that will affect bystanders". There are more examples in the reports themselves.

    Also, I'm not convinced as yet that nicotine would not build up in the lung, staying in slow-evaporating PG/VG ("E-cigarette nicotine is apparently not absorbed from the lung, but from the upper airways").

    A surprise: "a trace of mercury"

    "Some toxicants remain to be tested"

    Note that the results for Ruyan juice might not be similar to other brands (Ruyan results are likely to be better).

    It would not be wise to claim zero/no harmful emissions, whch there is a tendency to do. Better to say 'neglible. Sadly, the NZ reports themselves have this tendency, even sounding a little like marketing at times.

    Are the test results available online? Othe than: http://healthnz.co.nz/RuyanCartridgeReport21-Oct-08.pdf

    The results are very good news. But the fact is that quite a number of toxins do exist in the vapor (at least 10), but in trace amounts. I find the spin in the conclusions within the reports themselves and also in the way they are fanfared is a bit distressing. Overstating the case leaves one wide-open to ridicule.
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    I was so excited to find this.
    How much you want to bet, Congress and the FDA already knows about it. I bet they won't say anything, or base any of their decisions on these findings, unless we press them on it.

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    "Of over 50 priority-listed cigarette smoke toxicants tested, none was detectable in the mist of the RuyanŽ e-cigarette, except for a trace of mercury close to the limit detection."

    Ughh, why would mercury be in the juice!????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicfits View Post
    I was so excited to find this.
    How much you want to bet, Congress and the FDA already knows about it. I bet they won't say anything, or base any of their decisions on these findings, unless we press them on it.
    Send it to them. They're supposed to be working for US.

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    Mercury, Well Mercury is found in a lot of foods we eat, it all depends on whether they deem it an acceptable level, key word is trace.

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    Woot Woot

    Glad to see some good news !!!!

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