Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

[JustJulie]

I missed that post. Was it in the news section?

Kevin

Yes, it was mentioned both here and in a separate thread, both of which were/are in the news subforum.

[a2dcovert]

I'm sorry I missed it.

Kevin

[Darkest]

Who do we talk to about getting a sticky up? Is it to late to add more names? I should be on there with my wife also. Fifty names? OMG, I figured there would be hundreds by now. I can think of at least three others from outside the forums that I can get on here. Just have to get street addresses. Will do that now.

[lotus14]

I strongly agree with the idea asking SJ to replace the current "connect to facebook" message with one asking people to join The Alliance, CASAA, etc.

Many people on the forum are just unaware of the importance of the fight we are in and the fact that regardless of how the impending ruling goes, the fight will be far from over.

There are a zillion posts on this forum complaining about our government. People in a democracy get the government they deserve. Quit complaining and do something constructive.

[MrKai]

Personally, I'm game for being a warm body for anything going in in Balto-DC Metroplex. As others have stated, I wasn't even aware of such an effort.

Hell if/when CASAA sets up office, it pretty much *has* to be in the DC Area anyway to make sure whenever the words 'Tobacco' and 'Harm Reduction' are spoken someone is there on the behalf of *consumers* who feel their lives have been positively effected by these products, their rights as (former?) members of the THE most persecuted minority in America aren't being trampled on and as another voice against Big Tobacco and their Oh-So-Good-For-Ya cigarette product

I got *no* problem grouping with like-minded individuals vaping away on the Mall handing out info cards. Just ask

-K

[Valkerie]

I strongly agree with the idea asking SJ to replace the current "connect to facebook" message with one asking people to join The Alliance, CASAA, etc.

Many people on the forum are just unaware of the importance of the fight we are in and the fact that regardless of how the impending ruling goes, the fight will be far from over.

There are a zillion posts on this forum complaining about our government. People in a democracy get the government they deserve. Quit complaining and do something constructive.

Does anyone have a link for this message? I can't find it and would be more than happy to join.

[MrKai]

People in a democracy get the government they deserve.

We live in a Federal Republic in the US of A, specifically crafted to NOT be a democracy to avoid the dangers of an over-abusive Majority Large groups of passionate people as a whole trend towards being easy to manipulate and exceedingly stupid

(not that we've seen anything like that in *recent* history, what with the near-instant availability of tomes and tomes of knowledge to aid the common man in making intelligent, informed choices. Oh wait...)

If we lived in a democracy, when we smoked we'd likely be targeted to be shot on sight. Mob rule sucks...at least we have the LACK of this going in our favor

Quit complaining and do something constructive.

I think this will come sooner than later, lotus.

-K

[a2dcovert]

We live in a Federal Republic in the US of A, specifically crafted to NOT be a democracy to avoid the dangers of an over-abusive Majority Large groups of passionate people as a whole trend towards being easy to manipulate and exceedingly stupid

(not that we've seen anything like that in *recent* history, what with the near-instant availability of tomes and tomes of knowledge to aid the common man in making intelligent, informed choices. Oh wait...)

If we lived in a democracy, when we smoked we'd likely be targeted to be shot on sight. Mob rule sucks...at least we have the LACK of this going in our favor



I think this will come sooner than later, lotus.

-K

This is so true. We have with our voting action or inaction created the government we are living under. Like Democracy, a Republic can be subverted by the mass organization of one group. The only way to reverse the condition is to do the same thing that got us where we are today. We will have to awaken the sleeping giant and fight for what is right.

Sounds kind of radical but true.

Kevin

[WILDJC]

This is so true. We have with our voting action or inaction created the government we are living under. Like Democracy, a Republic can be subverted by the mass organization of one group. The only way to reverse the condition is to do the same thing that got us where we are today. We will have to awaken the sleeping giant and fight for what is right.

Sounds kind of radical but true.

Kevin

Indeed. I always put integrity above the law. Yeah, sometimes this gets me in trouble, and mind you I am not advocating the behavior, but it is a worthy cause. An example of this would be possession of .......... Many people use it for medicinal purposes, ie; cancer, chronic pain. Should these people be prosecuted in states that outlaw this personal use? I don't think so.

[HaploVoss]

Indeed. I always put integrity above the law. Yeah, sometimes this gets me in trouble, and mind you I am not advocating the behavior, but it is a worthy cause. An example of this would be possession of .......... Many people use it for medicinal purposes, ie; cancer, chronic pain. Should these people be prosecuted in states that outlaw this personal use? I don't think so.

I do not understand this argument - not that I am all that concerned one way or the other about ........., but I have epilepsy... at one time in my life when it was very chronic, I had a card I carried on my person. It allowed me to order it from a place in texas, and use it via a HUGE weird vaporizing type of machine actually (how ironic come to think of it). The card was for the sole purpose of if for any reason I needed to transport it to and from the post office or 'emergency use'.

I never did put the card to use because at the time I was still living at home, and my family was all 'OMG!! DRUGS?!?! NO WAY!!!' and therefore I was as well. I don't regret it either as I came through just fine in the end. But the point is that I hear about this outlawing of even medical use, but from what my neurologists told me at the time - that card took care of any situation that might arise... ??

Take care,
- Hap