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he is right about that! /me zips his lips and moves to a more suitable forum and keeps checking here for the latest on the federal case!
Off topic or not, I can't let a blatantly incorrect statement remain unchallenged:Swedish Match makes snus, not chewing tobacco. Huge difference. Huge. Educate yourself in the Alternatives section of this forum. And, yes, PM has been rumored to be trying a buyout of Swedish Match. No surprise. Smokeless tobacco use is growing as cigarette sales are shrinking.Someone pointed out in another forum that PM is rumored (by bloomberg) to be making an offer on a dutch chewing tobacco company called Swedish Match
And now we return to our regularly scheduled program, on which the entire future of e-smoking hangs ...
The tobacco industry holds on to the largest source of nicotine in the U.S., right? Rather than selling the leaves to burn, they process them and sell them in e-cigs as nicotine. What's not for BT to like? No different than the corn growers selling corn as fuel alternatives, high fructose corn syrup, etc. It's diversifying. Most corn crops these days aren't even sold to be consumed as corn kernels.
By buying the e-cig concept, BT has just one more use for it's crop. As smokers quit burning tobacco and start using e-cigs, they'd still be buying from BT. It'd be a smart move, IMO.
However, if it gets classified as an actual tobacco product, bye-bye to flavors other than tobacco and menthol.Maybe we'll be able to get unflavored and flavor them ourselves. Who knows what will happen?
Not all juice has nicotine that came from tobacco. Some use synthetic nicotine thus tobacco is not needed.Originally Posted by kristin
The tobacco industry holds on to the largest source of nicotine in the U.S., right? Rather than selling the leaves to burn, they process them and sell them in e-cigs as nicotine. What's not for BT to like? No different than the corn growers selling corn as fuel alternatives, high fructose corn syrup, etc. It's diversifying. Most corn crops these days aren't even sold to be consumed as corn kernels.
By buying the e-cig concept, BT has just one more use for it's crop. As smokers quit burning tobacco and start using e-cigs, they'd still be buying from BT. It'd be a smart move, IMO.
However, if it gets classified as an actual tobacco product, bye-bye to flavors other than tobacco and menthol.
With synthetic nicotine, how could that be a tobacco related product if no tobacco plant was required?
Interesting comment by Dr. Siegel on Sunday's Q&A with him at Vapersplace.com... he has never heard of synthetic nicotine.
Honestly, I have searched far and wide on the Internet and cannot find any such thing as well. If anyone has a link, that would be awesome... but I am beginning to think there is no such thing.
Now, could you refine nicotine so cleanly that TSNA's are not present? If you look at Commit Lozenges, which are the only nicotine product that I can find that does not contain TSNA's, then where they source their nicotine *could* be synthetic... unless their refining process is just that good. But why not use it for all of the other NRT's they produce?
e-smoker 4eva
In politics, it'd easy enough:
A. Call it a tobacco substitute, and since it contains the word tobacco, voila.
B. Argue that the spirit of the law was meant to regulate ALL nicotine-containing products.
C. Invoke "the children".
Not supporting the case against e-cigs by any means, but playing Devil's Advocate is a forte of mine...
Google the words...synthetic nicotine!
If you have the time, and I dont right now, I just came to quick check updates, you can find out with lots of reading and searching that synthetic nicotine is not only used in some juice its also added to some tobacco based cigs to up the amount of nic.
Synthetic nic is nothing new.
They have been using it for a long time in pesticides.
Synthetic nicotine is really just very very refined nicotine from tobacco plants or from other nicotine sources such as tomatoes... but is extremely expensive to make considering what needs to be done to make it "synthetic". Even nicotine used in pesticides appears to be originally extracted from the tobacco plant.
All Google searches for synthetic nicotine also bring up conversations by ecig suppliers or discussions on forums, of which are not the authority on synthetic nicotine. The only relevant link I have ever found with the mention of synthetic nicotine is Legacy Tobacco Documents Library
e-smoker 4eva
I purposely said tobacco was the largest source, not the only source of nicotine. My point was that BT COULD make money off e-cigs very easily, because some argue that making e-cigs wouldn't benefit BT.
Johnson Creek is one E-liquid manufacture that uses synthetic pharma grade nicotine not derived from tobacco. Nicotrol also uses a syntetic nicotine.
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