Closed Thread
Page 377 of 641 FirstFirst ... 277327367373374375376377378379380381387427477 ... LastLast
Results 3,761 to 3,770 of 6407
Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY in Electronic Cigarette News; Originally Posted by Territoo Ack! Countryboy, you just gave the enemy the code buster! Now we'll have to start posting ...
  1. #3761
    ECF Guru Verified Member
    ECF Veteran
    Supporting Member
    JerryRM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Rhode Island
    Posts
    15,527

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Territoo View Post
    Ack! Countryboy, you just gave the enemy the code buster! Now we'll have to start posting in Swahili or something. Maybe one of the Native American languages. Anybody speak Lakota?
    Territoo, HAU HEMACA WINYE LA.

    I think, therefore I vape.

    Pre Veteran thread ( 2012)


  2. Advertisement
  3. #3762
    Full Member ECF Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    149

  4. #3763
    Senior Member ECF Veteran FizzleFisch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Lake Travis - Texas
    Posts
    179

    Exclamation Cynicism?? -- why would that occur to anyone?

    I find it curious that even as recently as Dec. 8th.... there still hasn't been any announcement of appointments for ANY of the nominees to the FDA's Tobacco Products Scientific Advisory Committee.

    If the average citizen looks at the stated function of this TPSAC and the application/nomination criteria as published.... one might tend to think, or even believe, the FDA was truly interested (as meaning genuinely intentioned) in having available the sage advice and sound considered input of 'scientific experts' while endeavoring to formulate and execute it's administrative charge in harmony with it's own mandated mission.

    Without considering any debate as to the questionable purity of the implied 'scientifically-founded' knowledge & counsel generated from such a committee (as it is prescribed to be constituted) ..... I still have to wonder about a plainly obvious but remarkably confounding observation which highlights the painful truth of our social system of governance (especially with respect to the health of this nation's citizens). -- Gross Inefficiency and Rampant Ineffectual Execution.

    There are of course...cross-purposed interests to be both acknowledged and reconciled in the process of governance. That reality is inherent in the unique form of democracy our nation has been built upon.

    But it seems to me that IF the United States Government, either via the U.S. Congress, the U.S.-FDA, or any other official Agency, Administrative Arm, or other officially mandated group... were genuinely interested in the ideals & objectives so prevalently and publicly promoted as "Tobacco Harm Reduction" --- then we would all be seeing a much more rapid and pointedly effective execution of tasks and activities in the business of carrying out the expectations we might place upon our public servants in government.

    .... but somehow... this old fart just doesn't quite get the sense that any such altruistic notions are coming very much into play here.

    And we wonder why the younger generations always fail to understand how their foregoing elders have so often fallen to the temptation of being so easily critical of the past... and so typically cynical about the future.


    fisch

  5. #3764
    Full Member ECF Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    149

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleFisch View Post
    I find it curious that even as recently as Dec. 8th.... there still hasn't been any announcement of appointments for ANY of the nominees to the FDA's Tobacco Products Scientific Advisory Committee.

    If the average citizen looks at the stated function of this TPSAC and the application/nomination criteria as published.... one might tend to think, or even believe, the FDA was truly interested (as meaning genuinely intentioned) in having available the sage advice and sound considered input of 'scientific experts' while endeavoring to formulate and execute it's administrative charge in harmony with it's own mandated mission.

    Without considering any debate as to the questionable purity of the implied 'scientifically-founded' knowledge & counsel generated from such a committee (as it is prescribed to be constituted) ..... I still have to wonder about a plainly obvious but remarkably confounding observation which highlights the painful truth of our social system of governance (especially with respect to the health of this nation's citizens). -- Gross Inefficiency and Rampant Ineffectual Execution.

    There are of course...cross-purposed interests to be both acknowledged and reconciled in the process of governance. That reality is inherent in the unique form of democracy our nation has been built upon.

    But it seems to me that IF the United States Government, either via the U.S. Congress, the U.S.-FDA, or any other official Agency, Administrative Arm, or other officially mandated group... were genuinely interested in the ideals & objectives so prevalently and publicly promoted as "Tobacco Harm Reduction" --- then we would all be seeing a much more rapid and pointedly effective execution of tasks and activities in the business of carrying out the expectations we might place upon our public servants in government.

    .... but somehow... this old fart just doesn't quite get the sense that any such altruistic notions are coming very much into play here.

    And we wonder why the younger generations always fail to understand how their foregoing elders have so often fallen to the temptation of being so easily critical of the past... and so typically cynical about the future.


    fisch

    Translation:

    ..-. -.. .- / ... ..- -.-. -.- ... / -.. --- -. -.- . -.-- -... .- .-.. .-.. ...

  6. #3765
    ECF Guru Verified Member
    ECF Veteran
    Supporting Member
    JerryRM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Rhode Island
    Posts
    15,527

    Default

    Fisch, in my opinion, the government has grown too large and is trying to do too many things, both here and abroad. It is one huge and complicated bureaucracy. Mix in some incompetence and some corruption and you have confusion. One hand doesn't know what the other one is doing and probably doesn't care.

    I think, therefore I vape.

    Pre Veteran thread ( 2012)


  7. #3766
    Full Member ECF Veteran
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Blythewood, South Carolina, United States
    Posts
    143

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Territoo View Post
    Ack! Countryboy, you just gave the enemy the code buster! Now we'll have to start posting in Swahili or something. Maybe one of the Native American languages. Anybody speak Lakota?

    let em have the code, it's only good to em if they know how to use it against us. considering i'm broke and unemployed, ecig is all i got left, and i'll be damn if there gonna take me without a fight. I'm goin out in a blaze of glory!

  8. #3767
    Full Member ECF Veteran
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Blythewood, South Carolina, United States
    Posts
    143

    Default

    well government will always some element of corruption. the only way to combat the corruption is hopin we vote on the rite person fer the job, and hope that the media becomes the honest watchdogs that they should be.

    btw fisch, easy on the big words up thar, i swear i had to read yer post about 3 times to understand it, almost needed webster to give me a hand.

  9. #3768
    Super Member ECF Veteran
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    California
    Posts
    565

    Default

    I just hadd to (CSI Miami lover here)

    Last edited by Sun Vaporer; 12-20-2009 at 06:09 AM.

  10. #3769
    ECF Guru
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    10,168

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ladysolitary85 View Post
    I just hadd to (CSI Miami lover here)


    LOL--excellent Lady!!--I reloaded the code in your post so it would take.

  11. #3770
    Super Member ECF Veteran
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    California
    Posts
    565

    Default

    Thank you Sun

Closed Thread

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

SEO by vBSEO