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    Default Njoy response to FDA

    Don't know if anybody has posted this yet or not, if this is a double post mods please delete.

    NJOY RESPONSE TO FDA CONFERENCE CALL

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    About time--better late then never!!!!!!!!!!! Sun

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    Paraphrasing :

    Those other companies have poison in their stuff, but ours are clean. Go pick on them and leave us alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minimike View Post
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    Those other companies have poison in their stuff, but ours are clean. Go pick on them and leave us alone.
    lol they did generalize all E-cig products in this almost makes me wonder if all E-cig vendors should sue for slander lol

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    Its so bad now. Now everyone that knows me keeps commenting on how they heard what the FDA said and how they don't think its a very smart idea anymore.
    Damn the FDA.
    I don't understand at all how vaping could be worse than smoking analogs.
    I could pull out a list that would stretch a mile long of ingredients in cigarette.
    I could fit all the ingredients in eliquid on a post-it note.
    It makes me sad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krakkan View Post
    lol they did generalize all E-cig products in this almost makes me wonder if all E-cig vendors should sue for slander lol

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    Oh man I hope for a full blown battle between these two and I hope many other suppliers gets in on this. Bring your proof to the table suppliers and bring down the rain.

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    Based on Njoy's response, it seems they weren't all that well prepared to reply. Even though I find the FDA results to be a 6 pound bag of crap; they've got a lot more money to fight with than Njoy. It's PEOPLE who are going to have to fight this.

    I would like to see a comparison of the harmful ingredients and the supposed harmful ingredients between real cigarettes and e-cigarettes and still have the FDA call them bad. If they say e-cigs are bad and won't allow them to be sold - how on EARTH can they continue to allow regular cigarettes to be sold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zestok90 View Post
    Its so bad now. Now everyone that knows me keeps commenting on how they heard what the FDA said and how they don't think its a very smart idea anymore.
    Damn the FDA.
    I don't understand at all how vaping could be worse than smoking analogs.
    I could pull out a list that would stretch a mile long of ingredients in cigarette.
    I could fit all the ingredients in eliquid on a post-it note.
    It makes me sad.

    Don't be sad, just explain to them that this is FDA propaganda to get the public against e-cigs, and to get e-cigs under there control so they can tax the he11 out of us (or to simply bann e-cigs because they think they will appeal to children).

    IMO this is no different then what the Nazi's did to win the public over, lie lie lie!!!

    I seen someone say that the FDA should be charged with some sort of Murder if they bann e-cigs, most vapor smokers will simply go back to analogs resulting in more deaths in the long run. Not sure I disagree with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zestok90 View Post
    Its so bad now. Now everyone that knows me keeps commenting on how they heard what the FDA said and how they don't think its a very smart idea anymore.
    Damn the FDA.
    I don't understand at all how vaping could be worse than smoking analogs.
    I could pull out a list that would stretch a mile long of ingredients in cigarette.
    I could fit all the ingredients in eliquid on a post-it note.
    It makes me sad.
    I know what you mean :-(

    I started vaping right before my son went to Iraq. After trying my e-cig before he left, he wanted me to send him e-cig supplies once he got there so he can get of analogs also. He has tried to quit before also, but always ended up going back to analogs. Since I was new at it at the time, I told him I would see how it goes with me and we would talk about it once I was more familiar with it.

    He has seen me struggle for a long, long time to quit my 40 year long habit of smoking 3-4 day a pack habit and he has seen me fail with every method, patch, hypnosis, cold turkey, gum, Cyban, Chantix (got vilolently sick from those), lozengers, you name it, I tried it, most of them more than once, that is on the market and out there, until the e-cig came along!!!
    He was so, so elated when he saw that I dropped analogs completely within a few days of getting my first e-cig, the DSE901 and that I have not had a single analog every since!

    I spoke with him today and the very first thing he talked about on the call was the FDA report. How the e-cigs turned out to be dangerous and cancer causing also, so why bother quitting analogs and so on and so on...... I told him that the FDA was full of BS and I would send him more info.

    Pisses me off to no end that the FDA is now changing people's minds about how safe it is for the vaporer and for those around them. Many potential analog quitters will now not be making the switch to e-cigs....How sad and frustrating.... Many on his post in Iraq are talking about it also and are saying the same thing, why bother with e-cigs if they are dangerous also.......

    I will not stop e-cigs no matter what happens....I will find a way to vape, one way or the other.....!!!!

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    might point out to him that nicotine gum and the patch both have the carcinogenic trinosamines. It is frustrating, though. I hear ya.

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