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Oregon AG's using Office to try to ban selling of 'E-cigarette' in Electronic Cigarette News; Well, I feel for u guys and gals in Oregon, good luck and have many good vacations accross the border ...
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    Well, I feel for u guys and gals in Oregon, good luck and have many good vacations accross the border . So... sweet! maybe this is a states rights issue, I can dream, but that would be better than the fed acting. Im in NY, and hate it here more and more. Sure as poop this will be one of the next states that do this ban, and id love to move someplace else anyways. This would weed out other states and help me in my choosing where to go lol. My guess would be Texas, only time will tell

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    Sitting here in Salem, Oregon, relaxing with my 36mg Coffee. Laptop on lap, KGW news on in the background.

    Then I find this thread. While I'm reading the posts KGW does a quick blurb about the 'ban'.

    Almost swore out loud.
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    The mafia wants their cut, if you're not 'a friend of theirs', too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pocket Aces View Post
    Isn't Pot just about legal in Oregon? It's crazy!
    It was heading that way, but that movement has been pushed back a bit. We've got some pretty ridiculous smoking laws in place now too, not to mention unenforceable in the first place.

    Hell, cops here will double cite you for littering if you happen to drop a cigarette butt, but bar owners and businesses aren't allowed to have ashtrays within ten feet of any door, so you get screwed coming and going here :\

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pocket Aces View Post
    Isn't Pot just about legal in Oregon? It's crazy!
    LOL

    No. Oregon has decriminalized possession of small amounts, but they crack the hammer on anyone growing or selling. I mean REALLY crack it. California is where pot is practically legal, not Oregon.
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    "Even if courts decide that the FDA does not have regulation authority, the settlement stipulates that electronic cigarettes may not be sold in Oregon unless there is competent and reliable scientific evidence to support the product's safety claims. "

    I make no safety claims

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    This only affects businesses in OR from selling. It can't affect anyone there from buying outside the state. Even if they had the right to open your mail what are they gonna do, open every package that goes through the post office to see whats in it? If more and more states start going this route the suppliers will have to stop selling and that's when we really start getting screwed. It still amazes me how they allow cigarettes to be legal which are known killers and they ban the e-cig. How stupid do they think we are when they say it's for our protection and not about money?

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    Is Oregon the first state to do this? I havn't heard of any others!The Wiz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houdini View Post
    This only affects businesses in OR from selling. It can't affect anyone there from buying outside the state. Even if they had the right to open your mail what are they gonna do, open every package that goes through the post office to see whats in it? If more and more states start going this route the suppliers will have to stop selling and that's when we really start getting screwed. It still amazes me how they allow cigarettes to be legal which are known killers and they ban the e-cig. How stupid do they think we are when they say it's for our protection and not about money?
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    A Lawyer should go after them to ban analogs in Oregon, along with alcoholic beverages, things to high in cholesterol, fats and sugars. I mean if that is what the DAG is basing the ban on then go whole hog and follow through!

    Quote Originally Posted by BigJimW View Post
    Not surprising. Expect other states to follow suit. Too much lost taxes, and the FDA gave them the excuse.

    "When products threaten the health and safety of Oregonians, we will take action," said Mary Williams, deputy attorney general. "If companies want to sell electronic cigarettes to consumers, they have to be able to prove they are safe."

    So, will they ban real cigarettes too? Double standard.
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