News: SE is set to battle FDA as BT.

[ladyraj]

I found a link on tobacco.org that links to the St Petersburg Times that proclaims:

Electronic cigarettes set for battle with FDA - St. Petersburg Times

Excerpts:

The FDA announced on July 22 that a laboratory analysis of e-cigarettes found that they contain carcinogens and toxic chemicals such as diethylene glycol, an ingredient used in antifreeze.

Matt Salmon, the president of the Electronic Cigarette Association, criticized the report as too narrow in scope and not including a peer review.
"My personal feeling is that it was a lot more about public relations than public health," Salmon said.

If Smoking Everywhere wins the lawsuit and becomes part of the big boys club of tobacco companies, it still faces rough waters.
At the end of June, President Barack Obama signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act to create stricter tobacco regulation.
Despite this legislation, Linscott said Smoking Everywhere is ready to face the challenges of being a tobacco company.

"If we are correct that it is a tobacco product, we are subject to all of the limitations and regulations of Marlboro and any other traditional cigarettes that you can name," he said.

Tobacco roadblocks (info for future directional of action)
If e-cigarettes are found to be tobacco products, here are some ways the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act could pose some issues for Smoking Everywhere:
• By October, tobacco companies will no longer be able to make candy or fruit-flavored cigarettes. Smoking Everywhere has different flavors of cartridges such as vanilla and strawberry.
• Tobacco manufacturers may no longer sponsor sporting, athletic and entertainment events using tobacco product brand names and logos. This year Smoking Everywhere sponsored several large entertainment events, including the 40th Annual NAACP Image Awards, the Grammy Awards and the Oscars.
• A new Center for Tobacco Products will oversee the science-based regulation of tobacco products, which would ultimately put the control of tobacco products in the FDA's hands.

Hmmm! That way the liquid nic would be available and we could all add our own flavorings! A few more hoops to jump but I love the grandfathering in aspect!
...btw, www.tobacco.org is a webcrawler that finds anything from around the world about all things related to tobacco and the e-cig, sometimes hourly...just a heads up for researchers! Opinions?

[jimik]

If it goes through, I am thinking that a 30ml bottle nic juice will cost an extra hundred dollars in taxes.

[ladyraj]

If it goes through, I am thinking that a 30ml bottle nic juice will cost an extra hundred dollars in taxes.

Nah I suspect the juice versus cart purchase will be the equivalent of the roll your own tobacco pouches. Lots cheaper. Further, there are no excise and federal taxes as well as MSA monies added to the price as there is in tobacco products. The tobacco companies are actually the ones funding the new FDA bill on tobacco and have a seat on the board but it is a non-voting seat. Keep in mind this is an attempt to keep the product available and protected as cigarettes are.

The implications for suppliers and experts in the e-cigarettes are enormous.

[Drunkwaco]

If it goes through, I am thinking that a 30ml bottle nic juice will cost an extra hundred dollars in taxes.

...... /sad face

[vaporich]

If it goes through, I am thinking that a 30ml bottle nic juice will cost an extra hundred dollars in taxes.

I sure hope not!

[jimik]

Nah I suspect the juice versus cart purchase will be the equivalent of the roll your own tobacco pouches. Lots cheaper. Further, there are no excise and federal taxes as well as MSA monies added to the price as there is in tobacco products. The tobacco companies are actually the ones funding the new FDA bill on tobacco and have a seat on the board but it is a non-voting seat. Keep in mind this is an attempt to keep the product available and protected as cigarettes are.

The implications for suppliers and experts in the e-cigarettes are enormous.

That would be pretty sweet.

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

If it goes through, I am thinking that a 30ml bottle nic juice will cost an extra hundred dollars in taxes.

At which point I would gladly go nic-free.....just don't stop the gear...

[ladyraj]

At which point I would gladly go nic-free.....just don't stop the gear...

Exactly...

[Pharoah]

At which point I would gladly go nic-free.....just don't stop the gear...

I'll second that. I have started to reduce my nic.

[grimmer255]

same here I started with 18mg four months back and already transition into 6mg. my next purchase will be half 6mg and half 0mg and will split it to 3mg. And Im hoping to go to zero after that. I really do enjoy vaping and I hope that this will continue....But what blows my mind is why can they just hit the liquid and not the devices.....what if the sellers only sold aroma juices that have no nicotine at all and the ecig devices...thats wont be a drug delivering device....this just makes no since to me at all.