FDA Bans Flavors in Tobacco Cigarettes

[Dorian_Gray]

If the manufacturer of small rum dipped cigars is happy about this?

[Bryn]

Originally Posted by Vocalek
GOD says:
They need to ban ALL smoking tobacco. NOBODY has ever benefited from smoking tobacco! Any person that smokes within 100 feet of a child should be executed on the spot! Any woman that subjects her fetus to tobacco or any other defilement should be given a hysterectomy and have her vagina cauterized! It's deplorable that a so-called "parent" would intentionally cause damage to their children's health in order to get a fix. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO HARM CHILDREN!!!!!!

God, Banzhaf is at it again.

I dedicated a card to John Banzhaf at Right to Vape.com posted in The Wholey of the Technofoggers forum at RTV site.

The Hanged Man for Technofoggers is renamed ...

ASH US


This card is The Hanged Man Reversed because of ASH - John Banzhaf's refusal to see the light. ASH stands for Action on Smoker and Health, US legal-action antismoking organization.

4dangers

ASH Legal Complaint Hits E-Cigarettes: New Product Poses Dangers For Both Smokers and Nonsmokers. ASH to the Rescue to help protect nonsmokers, and also smokers who might use the product instead of quitting, ASH has filed a formal legal petition demanding that it be regulated by the FDA.

ASH comes across like a sweating, rigid, fundamentalist hellfire and brimstone preacher screaming at sheeples in a huge tent during Southern Baptist Revival.

John Banzhat at ASH is a lawyer who has been making smokers miserable since 1967 when ASH was found.

Breaking News: John Banzhaf at ASH caught with his pants down It turns out that ASH is a major recipient of money from Big Pharma, which stands to lose huge amounts of profits if smokers start turning to electronic cigarettes rather than to existing pharmaceutical products in their attempts to quit smoking.

Specifically, ASH received $100,000 from Pfizer, according to the company's civic organization funding report for the 2nd quarter of 2009. Interestingly, that same report reveals that other recipients of major funding from Pfizer include three of the other major national anti-smoking organizations that are pushing for the removal of e-cigarettes from the market: the American Cancer Society, American Lung Association, and American Heart Association.

The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary

[jvapor]

That's true, but you should have the choice. I can never seem to replicate the available e-liquids. The experience isn't the same with Loranns and a base liquid, although I agree that it could be done with a big enough 'library' of flavors.
My gripe is that it shouldn't even be an issue. This discussion shouldn't even be taking place in a free society.

I couldn't agree with you more on this issue. I do not think that just because their is flavor that it targets children. I personally like having the flavors myself and find that the taste of tobacco is repulsive. I also feel that our government has trampled the rights of this country that the citizens are so browbeaten that they won't unite to do anything about it. For the first time in my life I have to say it stings to hear people from other countries say that our government is screwed up and how bad we have it when we are supposed to be the example of freedom.

[Fa-Q]

This comment really bothers me:

Burr did NOT sponsor this bill, he was against it and had introduced his own water downed bill to compete with this. The Scientific Advisory Board is to give recommendations about banning menthol within one year. The candy flavored tobacco products that introduce kids to tobacco are smokeless products, cloves cigarettes are just a side issue. If chew wasn't flavored, kids wouldn't start using smokeless, they'd get sick instead. Most people who argue against regulating tobacco products don't understand that there is not a RIGHT to smoke. and it's only because of the efforts of the tobacco companies that tobacco products weren't outlawed a long time ago. Substitute ...... for tobacco/cigarettes and would you still argue for the right to use ......? What about addiction do you not understand? The tobacco companies have had a good PR firm making their deadly products socially acceptable, it's time to stop the death and distruction caused by coffin nails. VJ Sleight, LASmoking Examiner

...wow, is all i have to say right now about this clown.

[PlanetScribbles]

This comment really bothers me:

Burr did NOT sponsor this bill, he was against it and had introduced his own water downed bill to compete with this. The Scientific Advisory Board is to give recommendations about banning menthol within one year. The candy flavored tobacco products that introduce kids to tobacco are smokeless products, cloves cigarettes are just a side issue. If chew wasn't flavored, kids wouldn't start using smokeless, they'd get sick instead. Most people who argue against regulating tobacco products don't understand that there is not a RIGHT to smoke. and it's only because of the efforts of the tobacco companies that tobacco products weren't outlawed a long time ago. Substitute ...... for tobacco/cigarettes and would you still argue for the right to use ......? What about addiction do you not understand? The tobacco companies have had a good PR firm making their deadly products socially acceptable, it's time to stop the death and distruction caused by coffin nails. VJ Sleight, LASmoking Examiner

...wow, is all i have to say right now about this clown.

I would argue that ...... is illegal. Tobacco is not.
They can't have their cake and eat it. They either want the tax revenue or they don't. They cant tax people on a product that they say should be illegal ffs. It either is illegal or it isn't. While is isn't then i'd say that people have an absolute and total right to smoke. And they can take that to the bank!

[callousparade]

They can't have their cake and eat it. They either want the tax revenue or they don't. They cant tax people on a product that they say should be illegal ffs.

yes they can and they do. look up ......... tax stamp. requires you to claim the cost of illegal contraband and purchase a tax stamp that must be affixed to your paraphernalia and stash, indicating that you have paid the taxes on it.

there are 20 states that are enforcing this garbage

[Bruce H]

callousparade-

There's a ton of stuff on Google about it. Here is a little clip as it pertains to what you said-

"Over subsequent decades, Congressman Harrison's law was revised to be more and more restrictive, and state laws were patterned after the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act. In 1922 the Federal Narcotics Control Board was established, and in 1924 the ...... Act illegalized manufacture of that drug. The Bureau of Narcotics was established in 1930, and in 1937 the ......... Tax Act made pot virtually illegal, under claims reminiscent of the Harrison act debate -- that ......... was leading the "less civilized races" to "murder, insanity and death". In 1951 an amendment to the original Harrison Act mandated prison sentences for narcotics violation, and in 1957 former Congressman Harrison passed away."

[PlanetScribbles]

yes they can and they do. look up ......... tax stamp. requires you to claim the cost of illegal contraband and purchase a tax stamp that must be affixed to your paraphernalia and stash, indicating that you have paid the taxes on it.

there are 20 states that are enforcing this garbage

WOW. Double WOW

[Pugzley]

Anything that is not specifically mentioned in the Constitution is reserved as to a right unto the people. All of this crap is unconstitutional that they are doing. Whether those who want to protect the children like it or not.

When I got caught with cigarettes as a kid, I got my rear end spanked and punished for it. My parents did not look to the state to change anything or anyone elses habits or way of doing business to control me, they took care of business themselves.

[dragonpuff]

yes they can and they do. look up ......... tax stamp. requires you to claim the cost of illegal contraband and purchase a tax stamp that must be affixed to your paraphernalia and stash, indicating that you have paid the taxes on it.

there are 20 states that are enforcing this garbage

The best part about the ......... tax stamp is the reasoning behind its original conception.

Once upon a time, ......... was perfectly legal and large quantities of it grew as weeds in the southern u.s. (hence, "weed" because it grows like one).

The powers that be were threatened by its encroachment on the cotton industry and sought about to devise a way to make a freely growing weed illegal.

In 1937, a new law was passed stating that anyone who wished to sell ......... must purchase a tax stamp; failure to do so would result in fines or imprisonment.

The fun part is, those who went looking to buy these stamps couldn't find them. There was no venue where they were sold, in fact no one has ever actually seen one, because they never existed.