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To Hail or Nip in the Bud? in Electronic Cigarette News; Good article by Louis van Rensburg by Louis van Rensburg I bought an electronic cigarette 10 days ago. For those ...
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    Good article by Louis van Rensburg

    by Louis van Rensburg
    I bought an electronic cigarette 10 days ago. For those who do not know, this gadget provides nicotine but eliminates the inhalation of tar and, depending who you believe, around 1 500 harmful substances associated with cigarette smoking. It vaporises a mixture of water and nicotine and does not produce any smoke, thereby eliminating the negative effects of secondary smoke inhalation.
    http://www.news24.com/Content/MyNews...nip_in_the_bud
    Last edited by JrdUK; 09-16-2009 at 12:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrdUK View Post
    Good article by Louis van Rensburg



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    Good find. It seems these zealots continue to ignore the fact that e-juice can contain 0 mg of nicotine if one so desires.

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    I'm sorry, but this tired old argument is growing weary. You can chew a matchstick if you want, but its essential purpose is to start a fire. Same with e-cigs. I dare say an overwhelming majority of e-smokers have no interest in zero nic. This whole "we can use zero nic" argument is irrelevant. Ditto silly comments about bongs, etc., made elsewhere. The e-cig is a nicotine delivery device and must be made legal and stand on its own. There is no other route to acceptance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalBob View Post
    The e-cig is a nicotine delivery device and must be made legal and stand on its own. There is no other route to acceptance.
    I'm wondering why you think that TropBob? It's simply not true. It does not exclusively have to be used with nicotene, therefore it is more than just a nicotene delivery system. I plan to drop the levels of nicotene I'm at now and eventually just get to vaping for the tactile and flavor sensations.

    It seems to me that if PVs are always linked to nicotene, they will always carry negative connotations in some peoples minds. (many people think nicotene causes cancer.)

    Some people I know have had negative reactions to my PV because I'm using nico juice, but when I tell them that's not necessary they lighten their stance considerably. Isn't that a better way to get PVs accepted into the mainstream?
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    Well, no offense, but I for one, generally use no nicotine.
    Maybe because I'm hoarding my liquid with nicotine for special times.

    Digg article at:

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrdUK View Post
    Good article by Louis van Rensburg



    News24 - Error
    Nice one to digg and comment; link to Digg and article below

    http://digg.com/health/To_hail_or_nip_in_the_bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalBob View Post
    I'm sorry, but this tired old argument is growing weary.
    So is yours.

    Lots of people have gone 0 nic. I've already drastically cut down my nicotine, and switch between 0mg, 6mg, and 12mg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pav View Post
    I'm wondering why you think that TropBob? It's simply not true. It does not exclusively have to be used with nicotene, therefore it is more than just a nicotene delivery system. I plan to drop the levels of nicotene I'm at now and eventually just get to vaping for the tactile and flavor sensations.

    It seems to me that if PVs are always linked to nicotene, they will always carry negative connotations in some peoples minds. (many people think nicotene causes cancer.)

    Some people I know have had negative reactions to my PV because I'm using nico juice, but when I tell them that's not necessary they lighten their stance considerably. Isn't that a better way to get PVs accepted into the mainstream?
    It's funny that you mentioned that many people think nic causes cancer. I was in a card game last evening and the subject of my PV came up among the smokers at the table. They were also of the opinion that "nicotine causes cancer". The reason this has become so prevalent a thought is because nicotine and tobacco have become synonymous words in many peoples minds. That's what led to a 5 minute discussion on the carcinogens in tobacco and the additives in cigarettes as opposed to what was being but into "the e juice" that the PV can be loaded with.

    Now back to the reason for your post, I agree. The PV IS NOT a drug delivery device unless you supply it with a drug- nicotine, coffee, sugar, etc. All tharmful drugs that should be controlled by our government, especially sugar because I've seen the results of over-drugged sugar addicts and it isn't a pretty sight.

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    Bob the device is ALREADY LEGAL. You do not need permission from me, your peers, your family or your government to use it.
    Do you understand how a non-socialized free republic works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLDS181 View Post
    So is yours.

    Lots of people have gone 0 nic. I've already drastically cut down my nicotine, and switch between 0mg, 6mg, and 12mg.
    Good for you. I have no intention to cut down on my Nic. I like it. If somebody had told me there was no Nicotine in the E-cig that I originally bought (because all the blurb told me it was a safer way to get my Nic as there was no Tobacco in it ) I simply would'nt have bought it.
    I smoked 40 Cigarettes a day for over 40 years and i'm going to buy something that replaces it with PG and VG ? Do you think i'm Stupid ?
    An Electronic Cigarette is a safer Alternative to Smoking Tobacco and it is Tobacco Smokers who are buying them. If there is no Nicotine in it then why should i buy it ? I can get NRT's from my Doctor for nothing.
    No Nic ? No E-Cig.

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