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Dana Tyler CBS News spread more fear tonight in Electronic Cigarette News; Here's my email to the newsperson Administration did some random sampling, which found some shocking results. "They found e-cigarettes contain ...
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    Here's my email to the newsperson
    Administration did some random sampling, which found some shocking results.

    "They found e-cigarettes contain proprelyne glycol which is basically the chemical used to make the smoke in this product," said Albert J. Ferrara of the New Jersey Health Department. "We don't know how serious that could be, but, again, it is an ingredient used in antifreeze in our cars and that doesn't sound healthy to any of us."

    Shocking....Here is shocking. Ferrara is with the health department and he fails to mention that propylene glycol (misspelled BTW in the quote) is as common as the toothpaste in your medicine cabinet. Here is a short course from the CDC in where and how pg is used in the home, in medical facilities, at nightclubs: virtually everywhere that human beings visit and consume products. So, the shock is really that anyone who pretends to have knowledge about health and chemicals would spread the lie that PG could possibly be shocking or dangerous in secondhand vape from an electronic cigarette. It is also shocking that the guy did not even spell the word correctly. Perhaps that's why his research was off since a misspelled chemical name would lead to a MISTAKE in his analysis of the compound. Please correct your article and this guy pretending to be a medical expert.

    In contrast to ethylene glycol, a potent cause of acute toxicity in humans, propylene glycol is a “generally recognized as safe” (GRAS) additive for foods and medications. Propylene glycol rarely causes toxic effects, and then only under very unusual circumstances.
    Uses


    Propylene glycol is a Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) food additive that is widely used in

    * food and tobacco products,
    * pharmaceuticals, and
    * cosmetics.

    In certain medicines, cosmetics, and food products, propylene glycol acts as

    * an emulsifying agent,
    * industrial drying agent,
    * surfactant, and
    * solvent.

    Concentrations in Food


    Concentrations in foods range from <0.001% in eggs and soups to about 15% in some seasonings and flavorings. Propylene glycol is an FDA-approved additive for military dietary rations (Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry 1997).
    Use in Textiles


    The largest amounts of propylene glycol are used in the textile industry, where it is an intermediate in polyester fiber production.
    Synonyms


    Synonyms for propylene glycol include

    * 1,2-propanediol,
    * 1,2-dihydroxypropane,
    * methyl glycol, and
    * trimethyl glycol (Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry 1997).

    Special Uses


    Aerosolized propylene glycol can provide dense “smoke” without flames. It is used

    * by the military as a smoke screen to conceal the movement of troops on the battlefield and
    * as a smoke simulator in various types of fire-training procedures and theatrical productions

    n the general population, propylene glycol exposure occurs primarily through ingestion of food and medications and through dermal contact with cosmetics or topical medications. Propylene glycol is used as a solvent in cosmetics and pharmaceuticals, in various formats

    * oral
    * injectable
    * topical

    For example, it makes up 40% of intravenous phenytoin (Dilantin) and other injectable medications (Meditext 2004).

    No adverse health effects are likely to occur from normal use of these products. However, heavy use of injectable medications with propylene glycol (Louis, Kutt et al. 1967; Seay, Graves et al. 1997; Yorgin, Theodorou et al. 1997; Wilson, Reardon et al. 2000), or prolonged and extensive topical application on compromised skin, such as burns (Peleg, Bar-Oz et al. 1998), has caused excess levels of propylene glycol in the body.
    Ethylene Glycol and Propylene Glycol Toxicity: What is Propylene Glycol | ATSDR - Environmental Medicine & Environmental Health Education - CSEM
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    I got in a hurry so I probably screwed up, but here is what I sent them:

    If the New Jersey Health department doesn't know that propylene glycol is a benign substance, then New Jersey doesn't have a Health Department.

    Propylene glycol has over seventy years of scientific history. This history includes significant animal and human testing, and the New Jersey Health Department doesn't know what it is? They don't know that it is in everyone's food, medicines, skin care products, cosmetics, and was used to replace ethylene glycol in antifreeze to make non-toxic antifreeze. The latter was done to help clean up the environment as well as safeguard animals that used to die from licking up puddles of antifreeze.

    Somehow I suspect WCBS is involved in a fear mongering campaign.
    You make no mention of the common uses of propylene glycol, or the known safety of it, and use words like "shocking" to describe it. You probably brushed your teeth with it this morning, and almost certainly ate some for lunch.

    The only thing that is "shocking" is watching so-called news that is spreading ignorance and fear straight out of the dark ages.
    Hundreds of thousands of Americans have finally found an effective way to get rid of the deadliest addiction in world history, and the New Jersey Health Department, aided by CBS news, won't rest until those people get back to smoking cigarettes again. That's the REAL news.

    Here's an idea, find someone who can turn on a computer, and have them do a google search for 'non-toxic antifreeze' and see what it is made from.

    Thank you for your time, and NO thank you for the televised misinformation.

    Sincerely,
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    Thanks Sherid - love it!
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    Thanks Usamare - great job - you guys are great!!!!

    Dont stop - keep it up!!!
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    It's going to be a huge shock to them when they look at the ingredients in their gel deodorant. Fourth ingredient, Propylene Glycol.

    I'm guessing that most people don't pay attention to the ingredients that they willingly use in or on their bodies.

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    right - and the only time the FDA pays attention is when it is in our PV's!
    :cool: Smokefree since January 5, 2009! :cool:

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    Great posts, everyone, honestly it's sickening....I don't know, maybe I'm just getting old but STUPID is just getting harder and harder to stomach. Some Health Department, eh? What exactly qualifies one to be head of a Health Department, anyway.....boy, people gotta soon start being careful about who's getting appointed to these cushy jobs. I doubt if I'd have the proper wardrobe, jeans and sweat shirt of the working class probably wouldn't get me in, but by God I think I could do the job just a well
    ~ no, Better. I'd show them some smoke. NO KIDDING.

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    YouTube - Dana Tyler of WCBS News spread more fear about Electronic Cigarettes

    Watch the fat black guy puke up the same tired old BS like he had an FDA enema and the freaky white guy who, I swear to GOD, sounds exactly like my parody voice in one of my videos.

    Urinalism at it's finest. Those tools look like robots.

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    Once again, another great review from BigJimW!
    Urinalism = journalism with a twist
    Thanks, I needed that!
    Last edited by Kate51; 09-29-2009 at 04:01 AM.

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    I'm not from NJ, but I also had to send an email to the Author. Thanks for the link to the original poster. This is the type of negative press we do not need. Believe it or not, most folks have never even heard of the E-Cigarette (pv) so for them to see this first does not help our cause.

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