Fox News Saftey Concerns for E-Cigs

[grimmer255]

I question everything that is on the news
and i do mean everything. i can read through BS... no problem

[paradox77]

Great now I just had to add to the list of reasons why I hate fox news.

Reason 101 and counting....

[Dredbull]

This is the following challenge I posted on the ECF as a response. I would be willing to include the folks at ASH, FDA, BT and BP. Any MD or research panel of MDs.
Or other media outlet.

I would be willing for any MD to do his own case study over the course of 6-12 months with me. Hell folks I am willing to throw this gauntlet down to any MD and to include this with FDA testing. I will take this one for the team, this is my idea.

I am willing to throw this last months progress to the wind in a supersize me like test and challenge.

Providing they cover the costs of everything related to this test. Anal log cost and medical expenses.

3-6 months back sliding to my old anal log habits, full blood and panel work up. Full toxin testing. Full lung and system work up. every 2-4 weeks. Also a sleep test showing the effect of smoking analog on the body before during and after various stages of sleep.
Cardiac testing every week, base line testing every week. Showing the rapid and sudden onset of damage caused by smoking.
Keeping a running tally of what I am taking into my body and amounts of toxins and cancer causing substances.
Along with a daily video log like in supersize me.

Then allow me to switch for pving. 3-6 months vaping my choice of strengths and various juices as I have been. same testing battery.

It would be interesting to see the results, the amounts and the hell we have all suffered in our quest to break the bonds of tobacco.

[brownbrown4]

dreadbull. this is a great idea... maybe ECF can get a group of their vendors/manufacturers to put in on this.... if most vendors put in , the cost would be nominal to each vendor.. and the study could be given to the ECA and all the B.S Hype would be quelled...
i have no idea of the costs, but i do know that the ECF has a butt load of Vendors... a few hundred here and there from each would make EVERYONES life easier....
And your willing to put your body in as a guniea pig... more power to you !!!
if i wasnt poor and working for tax money, i'd be in 100%

vr, BB

ps. i cant spell or don't have grammar skills... but my bowstaff skills are amazing

[Dredbull]

Nah I said they cover the anal logs and medical.

I would still purchase and support my favorite suppliers, I have my stock and will be doing yet another order just a bit more refined this time Now if the people conducting the tests supplied anything then that would be fine.

It was not ment to be a plea for freebies
I am honest about this challenge and pose it to any of the media outlets and agencies over the validity of harm and toxin reduction. And to prove to the FDA their findings are not correct, and to the various state and local governments that banning these is not the smart or wise choice.
Neither is taxing these devices into non use.

[mxpowers]

Nah I said they cover the anal logs and medical.

I would still purchase and support my favorite suppliers, I have my stock and will be doing yet another order just a bit more refined this time Now if the people conducting the tests supplied anything then that would be fine.

It was not ment to be a plea for freebies
I am honest about this challenge and pose it to any of the media outlets and agencies over the validity of harm and toxin reduction. And to prove to the FDA their findings are not correct, and to the various state and local governments that banning these is not the smart or wise choice.
Neither is taxing these devices into non use.

I'm down for that Idea... Let's do it.

[brownbrown4]

u may have misunderstood my comment it wasnt meant for freebies. i meant for them to Dontate for the medical costs for the research. it would be their business's/ lively hood if pv's get banned ... i assume all the needed tests would be a pretty penny for 6-12 months....

[Dredbull]

The length of time was to get a baseline set of readings, toxin build ups etc.

I also suggest the analogs to pv as how we quit or quitting, the medical costs of those tests would be through the roof.

Anyone know where I can pose this human guinea pig idea to the FDA? maybe they will foot the bill since BT is lining their pockets.
Hell I should just propose this test to Judge Leon and have the court/fda/se/njoy/BT foot this.

[PlanetScribbles]

Actually if you want any news nowadays, Fox is where you need to go to get it unless you like listening to talking heads promoting one-world government. Try the red pill, you might like it.

Did you notice that Fox invited the marketer of the smokingeverywhere product to appear but they were 'afraid' to come on the show????? - WTF?? they're in the middle of a fight-for-their-life lawsuit with the FDA, Fox gives them a chance to come on and sway public opinion against the FDA days prior to Judge Leon ruling, and they don't even take advantage of it? Another golden opportunity lost = Pathetic in my book.

The reason SE refused to appear is the same as why Obama has refused to appear on Fox. They would have been ripped to shreds. They are not fair and balanced in any way, shape or form, and push the agenda that the neo-right 'invite' them to by way of, no doubt generous, lobby contributions to the Murdoch media coffers.

[mxpowers]

The reason SE refused to appear is the same as why Obama has refused to appear on Fox. They would have been ripped to shreads. They are not fair and balanced in any way, shape or form, and push the agenda that the neo-right 'invite' them to by way of, no doubt generous, lobby contributions to the Murdoch media coffers.

Great point... I forgot that Obama hates Fox News just as much as everyone in America.