Dallas to include E-Cigs in smoking ban

[crazybry79]

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Electronic cigarettes bypass the smoking ban in Dallas bars - KDAF

In short, the city is considering including the electronic cigarettes into the smoking ban. Their thoughts are based on the FDA's (biased, loaded, weighted, and almost downright tampered) preliminary findings.

IMHO, we may want to voice our concerns to them. I know there are some very informative and persuasive people on here, and I feel that the City of Dallas' governing bodies should get some input from some of us.

I do not know the correct avenues for this, but I have come up with this so far...

Possibly people could send an email to the mentioned department(s) / legeslative personel handling and advis-oring over this.

City od Dallas Code complience - http://www.dallascityhall.com/code_comp ... index.html

Director-
Joey Zapata

There is a link to email the mayor AND all of the concilmen at one time - E-Mail to City of Dallas Mayor and City Council

Thoughts?

[Menville]

I don't know the procedure ,but this would do some good being posted also to Tejas vapors social blog...A lot of us in Dallas area

[crazybry79]

Feel free to copy/paste my friend!

I belive in a little public static!

[P3rplexity]

Yikes, Dallas native here, this would be very bad! I'll send an email, see if I get a bite from it.

[mtndude]

This would be a good opportunity for e-cig users living near Dallas to make sure their voices are heard (in person if possible). And considering that visitors to the city who use e-cigarettes would be impacted by a ban, I see no reason why members of this forum, in general, shouldn't voice their objections as well.

Let's do this folks.. your town may be next


Contact Mayor and City Council of Dallas

[Belushi]

Just kind of gets me how they just automatically assume smokers are turning to e-cigs for the purpose of getting around smoking bans. Plus, I don't even see how they can lump the two together in terms of second-hand "smoke", this is the basis for smoking bans, right?

[IANAN]

I guess what gets me even more is that new studies are indicating that bans in dense urban areas areas are not effective at all!!! The Journal of Tobacco and Nicotine Research just recently put out a study that was conducted 1.5 years after NY banned smoking in workplaces and in public. The results were that even though NY had the lowest number of smokers of any city in the US and the most stiffest smoking laws the exposure to second hand smoke was estimated to be the highest of any other city in the US.

Even better are the studies in Australia, California, Florida, New York, Oregon, England, Wales and Scotland (There are actually 10 studies that showed no decrease in heart disease) that indicated no decrease in heart disease after the ban... The IOM report commissioned by the CDC was criticized for omitting the majority of studies - More on that here A CDC second-hand smokescreen

And then the addition of E-Cig bans ignores the studies done by the Journal of Tobacco and Nicotine presented in Dublin and Health New Zealand Ruyan Sponsored testing that showed them to not have toxic effects and showed them to be effective as cessation devices. And then you have the FDA results itself, not their press release, that only found 1 out of 18 carts had DEG at slightly above 1% but the other 17 didn't have any. In fact the PV had lower levels of toxins than the Approved NRT- the Nicotrol Inhaler. The FDA study really points out some QA issues with some manufactures that need to be addressed- Just like when we had some QA issues with some peanut butter makers a while ago (The PB had E-Coli in it).

So my question here is what is the real purpose and motivation behind the ban? It isn't public health.

[Sinless1]

Time to go to court!

[miche11e]

I am working on a snail mail letter for the Dallas city counsel. I am a fellow Texan whose turned to vaping. Not to get around any smoking bans, but simply for health reasons. My husband and I both vape and many visitors of our city are from the city of Dallas and surrounding areas. I know it's just a matter of time before the city of San Antonio follows. I vape freely in Alamo Plaza while my hubby works. I cannot imagine anyone telling me what I cannot do or buy as a tax paying adult.

It's frustrating when government puts more effort into something as minor as vaping compared to alcohol abuse and cancer causing tobacco. Why is vaping such a big deal yet, the head shops can sell obvious drug supplies and stuff like Salvia to young people. I know the answer all boils down to money, but it's very frustrating.

My letter my fall on deaf ears but at least I am attempting to help some. Heck, I even wrote a letter to the Governor of California to help the cause. I just wish there was some way to convince someone to do a controlled long term studies on vaping versus cigarettes. I would really like to see the public's reaction when a long term study shows the benefits of vaping for smokers, and those who are around them. Anyway (stepping down off my soap box)

*Fingers crossed others will write in*

I heard where the state of Texas as a whole was looking at e-cigs but, I cannot seem to find any information to confirm this. I am praying it's a rumor.

[Scooter Bob]

60 Minutes should to run a show on this f-n insanity! jm2c Bob