BT buying e cig maker?

[LaceyUnderall]

In 2007 they sued NJoy

And lost. And then if I remember correctly were counter sued for slander And then lost again.

The original post was by a very prolific author (Tiffany Ellis) of numerous e-cig articles via a PR site and a PR/distributor for E-Cigarettes National. The link supplied is to a stock tip site Quamnet.com Thus, the info has not been verified and may be mere rumor.

Welcome to the speculation pool!!! Tiffany is a good writer... but Keyword placement in google IS her specialty Totally agree with you on this.

[General Idea]

This I do not understand. You don't trust BT to produce e liquids, but you do trust an unknown source in China with absolutely no regulations?

I buy from Boge/Dekang, While I realize it's not as thoroughly tested as the FDA would like - I have sold well more than a thousand bottles of it and have yet to see anyone complain or die ( I took a return from one lady who claimed her doctor told her not to use nicotine eliquid due to a bad drug interaction). I have read up on the company, and they have earned my trust - Big Tobacco would have to do a lot more to earn my trust, It would be like a mobster trusting the cops.

We all have our fears about DEG or lead or goat urine etc, some of them well founded and others less, but it seems safe to me. I saw one Chinese liquid once, I forget where, that listed the contents to contain 10ppm of PB (lead).

I know there is a group of suppliers here looking to perform an independant test - some gas chromatography etc, would go far for assurance.

I worry about some white label bottles that are out there, but I have some confidence that I am not poisoning people with Dekang liquid.

Here are the Boge certs that do exist, from their marketing materials.

[Kavik79]

My smokes cost: $4.50 Per pack

:eek: you're complaining about $4.50? LOL around here they were $7.50-$8 a pack a month ago when I last bought them. When I was down in NY city a few weeks ago I saw some places selling for over $10 a pack

I'm surprised the Federal govt isn't planning on funding universal healthcare with a tobacco tax.

From what I understand, that's exactly what they do here in NY, part of the cigg taxes go towards the gov't funded Child Health Plus insurance plan.

[sherid]

I buy from Boge/Dekang, While I realize it's not as thoroughly tested as the FDA would like - I have sold well more than a thousand bottles of it and have yet to see anyone complain or die ( I took a return from one lady who claimed her doctor told her not to use nicotine eliquid due to a bad drug interaction). I have read up on the company, and they have earned my trust - Big Tobacco would have to do a lot more to earn my trust, It would be like a mobster trusting the cops.

We all have our fears about DEG or lead or goat urine etc, some of them well founded and others less, but it seems safe to me. I saw one Chinese liquid once, I forget where, that listed the contents to contain 10ppm of PB (lead).

I know there is a group of suppliers here looking to perform an independant test - some gas chromatography etc, would go far for assurance.

I worry about some white label bottles that are out there, but I have some confidence that I am not poisoning people with Dekang liquid.

Here are the Boge certs that do exist, from their marketing materials.

I am not worried about buying them. I do it all the time. My comment was about a poster who said that they would not trust BT to regulate e cigs. I found that laughable and ironic since BT is the most regulated industry in the history of mankind.

[nubee]

Usually safer and more profitable to buy a proven business plan and business than risk starting one on your own.

I think the branding aspect of any deal is where they'll try and stick it too us all again. I can see the 30ml bottle of MarB now with that red logo all around it - can't you?

[lotus14]

Usually safer and more profitable to buy a proven business plan and business than risk starting one on your own.

I think the branding aspect of any deal is where they'll try and stick it too us all again. I can see the 30ml bottle of MarB now with that red logo all around it - can't you?

No I can't, though it would be nice. I see sealed, nonrefillable cartridges with the Marlboro logo. Or the logo of a pharma company.

[TropicalBob]

Bingo, Lotus. Absolutely dead-on. And the products will have regulated, low-dose nicotine content. Drug or tobacco product, the regulations will mandate that. Goodbye, 36mg. Goodbye, refilling carts with a syringe.

Look up the Aria, if you're not familiar with it. PM has spent decades working on delivering tobacco vapor. Its early products would pave the way for approval of a new product line, as the Family Smoking Prevention act requires.

[LaceyUnderall]

Lotus and TB - Let's also add...

If you think all that hardware and accessories you have sitting around is going to work for you as well... nope. They will gather up every style of atomizer, charger, battery, usb pass through you name it and make damn sure that their new electronic cigarette won't fit any of it. How do you think they are going to make the real money off of us "old vapers"?

Modders will be in hog heaven. The rest of us... buying all new...

[lotus14]

Lotus and TB - Let's also add...

If you think all that hardware and accessories you have sitting around is going to work for you as well... nope. They will gather up every style of atomizer, charger, battery, usb pass through you name it and make damn sure that their new electronic cigarette won't fit any of it. How do you think they are going to make the real money off of us "old vapers"?

Modders will be in hog heaven. The rest of us... buying all new...

Probably so, though I do think that BT either wants to kill the market by sitting on the patents, which I doubt they can do because small changes can get around patents, or use their muscle to corner it.

There is a huge untapped potential for these devices and BT knows it. For them to tap it, they'll have to produce something with enough flavor and nic that people will want to use their products.

Of course, assuming the FDA is regulating these, whether according to the tobacco scheme or the NRT scheme, they will have the final say in nic levels, and what *flavorings* are allowed by any manufacturer, including tobacco flavors.

Should be very interesting to see how this unfolds...

[hizen]

The original post was by a very prolific author (Tiffany Ellis) of numerous e-cig articles via a PR site and a PR/distributor for E-Cigarettes National. The link supplied is to a stock tip siteThus, the info has not been verified and may be mere rumor.

Correct...........that "news article" reads of total BS