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University of Kentucky bans E-Cig usage anywhere on property in Electronic Cigarette News; Originally Posted by IsxFun Definitions A. “Smoking” means inhaling, exhaling, burning, or carrying any lighted or heated cigar, cigarette, or ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsxFun View Post
    Definitions

    A. “Smoking” means inhaling, exhaling, burning, or carrying any lighted or heated
    cigar, cigarette, or pipe.
    B. “Tobacco Products” means all forms of tobacco, including but not limited to
    cigarettes, cigars, pipes, water pipes (hookah), electronic cigarettes, and smokeless
    tobacco products.
    C. “Members of the University community” include its faculty, staff, students,
    volunteers, patients, customers and visitors.

    III. Policy
    A. This regulation applies to all members of the University community.
    B. For areas located within Fayette County, Kentucky, the use of all tobacco
    products is prohibited on all property that is owned, operated, leased, occupied, or
    controlled by the University

    http://www.uky.edu/Regs/files/ar/ar6-5.pdf

    It's unbeliveable................
    Man , I tell you. These people need to do there research and see their flaw. We may be biased as users and this FDA thing may kick to the side, but to not consider for the time being that the positive outcome of allow vapers their right and condoning to a condition of use that is permissible on campus rather than outright banning its use.. makes more sense. I can see not using it in classrooms and maybe even through the halls that connect to classrooms ( attention getter type thing that diverts attention).
    Not a lot is really know about the principal effects to the human body.. nor to the possibility of harm that others around you may be subjected to... but the positive result for your health and the well being that this product offers outweighs the 1% factor of toxins versus over 5000 in a tobacco cigarette. It is moronic at best to even assume that the FDA has any valid evidence to prove that something that has really less or a fraction of 1% of those toxins can even potentially be any worse than an analog itself. But let me iterate, that is what you will find when talking to a brick wall.. Because the FDA is always right and they really know what they are talking about!!!! IDIOTS!!! PLain and simple!!!
    Thats my $0.02 worth.. take it for what it is worth to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsxFun View Post
    Definitions
    A. “Smoking” means inhaling, exhaling, burning, or carrying any lighted or heated
    cigar, cigarette, or pipe.
    B. “Tobacco Products” means all forms of tobacco, including but not limited to
    cigarettes, cigars, pipes, water pipes (hookah), electronic cigarettes, and smokeless
    tobacco products.
    C. “Members of the University community” include its faculty, staff, students,
    volunteers, patients, customers and visitors.

    III. Policy
    A. This regulation applies to all members of the University community.
    B. For areas located within Fayette County, Kentucky, the use of all tobacco
    products is prohibited on all property that is owned, operated, leased, occupied, or
    controlled by the University

    http://www.uky.edu/Regs/files/ar/ar6-5.pdf

    It's unbeliveable................
    Ellen Hahn is no doubt responsible. She has multiple huge grants from the Robert Woods Johnson Foundation and is the head anti-smoker at the university. Someone needs to stop these people.
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    It's a trend now, Sherry. A runaway train of opposition. It's not one person, except in one case. It's virtually every health group lined up against us.

    Sun, believe this: When I was in college, only two majors allowed smoking in the classrooms (smoking was associated with these types of people). I was so addicted to cigarettes that I chose my major and minor, and thus my entire future and life's direction, on this fact.

    I majored in journalism and minored in art and smoked my way to a degree, puffing away as I wrote and painted.

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    Whats next? Are they going to ban fat people from eating on campus? Are they going to ban cars that cant pass a smog test from their campus also? This is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geeker View Post
    Wow, times sure have changed. Las t time I was on campus there were more smokers than nonsmolers. The VA/UK hospital serves and houses many smokers. What are they going to do? The veterans seek care there, the very same people who served to preserve our rights. Weird, KY is such a huge tobacco producer you'd think they would turn a blind eye to smoking. Guess the nonsmoking benefactors have more $$$.
    When I visited my uncle at the VA hospital in I believe Morgantown, WV, the veterans were sitting outside in the snow to have their smokes. Talk about a low blow! These men fought for individual rights in this country and had continuing health problems that were connected to the service they provided. Then years later, along comes people who NEVER saw any type of battle and they throw them out in the snow so they don't have to smell the smoke????? BS BS They should have been forced to provide an area that was heated for those men to smoke!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acezzz View Post
    Whats next? Are they going to ban fat people from eating on campus? Are they going to ban cars that cant pass a smog test from their campus also? This is ridiculous.
    That is not too far in the future. As smokers are priced out of the market and revenues decline, you can bet our politicians WILL be looking to replace it. I heard a national news report just the other night about the "true" cost of obesity in this country...untold gabillions or something like that. Look for ad valorem taxes on fast foods, sugars, fats, soda, etc.

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    Some "member of the university community" should write a pointed letter to its human resources department, citing Michael Siegel's blog (The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary) and the research conducted by the U.K. NIH.

    When it comes to corruption and "state capture," you truly are either a part of the problem or a part of the solution. U.S. academia has sort of an intellectual obligation to take our side.

    A letter should also go out to alumni. Colleges and universities listen to two groups: alumni and potential incoming freshmen. The university where I used to work put in place a smoking ban--with designated smoking areas--to a appeal to a wider (i.e., more liberal) demographic. The alumni screamed! So, the current state of affairs is they have a ban, but do not enforce it.

    Of course, that ban applies only to regular tobacco cigarettes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webby View Post
    Sun,

    C'mon. That's a little hard to believe. Do you really expect us to believe you're so old that they actually let you smoke in class? I mean really, just how gullible do you think we are...?
    Yeah baby! I smoked in undergrad class... or at least I remember it that way.

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    That's moronic. That means they could consider chocolate to be tobacco. There is No tobacco in ecigarettes.

    I'm telling you people, all of these rules etc are based off sheer animosity towards a group. imagine if it were directed at homosexuals, liberals would go insane.. But now, YOU are the group they don't like...

    Wow, what control freaks.

    Notice how it won't cover .........? Typical liberals..

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    hmmmmmmm i think its a good thing... after 7 months of no smoking i cant stand the smell of cigarettes. I refuse to go anywhere that allows smoking in doors. it ruins my appetite and the smoke gives me headaches... not joking... my body just doesn't want to be around it and if you ask me thats a good thing because that tells me i will never go back to cigarettes and ecigs did the trick.


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