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University of Kentucky bans E-Cig usage anywhere on property in Electronic Cigarette News; Originally Posted by oldlady Some "member of the university community" should write a pointed letter to its human resources department, ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldlady View Post
    Some "member of the university community" should write a pointed letter to its human resources department, citing Michael Siegel's blog (The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary) and the research conducted by the U.K. NIH.
    This ban is nothing new on the UK campus. It has been in place for over a year.
    Several of us made every attempt to put a halt to this many moons ago in Lexington. We wrote letters to Ellen Hanh (which went unanswered) and made attempts to rally the troops, hence a probable reason why E-Cigs were listed as a description to the banned items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nole1028 View Post
    This ban is nothing new on the UK campus. It has been in place for over a year.
    Several of us made every attempt to put a halt to this many moons ago in Lexington. We wrote letters to Ellen Hanh (which went unanswered) and made attempts to rally the troops, hence a probable reason why E-Cigs were listed as a description to the banned items.
    Does this make Ellen Hanh the number two enemy behind Banzhole?
    Or am I mistaking her for some other person with a similar name on other smoking ban initiatives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grimmer255 View Post
    hmmmmmmm i think its a good thing... after 7 months of no smoking i cant stand the smell of cigarettes. I refuse to go anywhere that allows smoking in doors. it ruins my appetite and the smoke gives me headaches... not joking... my body just doesn't want to be around it and if you ask me thats a good thing because that tells me i will never go back to cigarettes and ecigs did the trick.
    You do realize that when you cross over to the dark side of anti-smoking rhetoric, that you have entered a realm that will soon say exactly the same thing about the "odor" of e cigs? They will not stop with cigarettes just as the bans on smoking have become so insane that one country has just banned smoking while walking. It WILL be e cigs next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC2 View Post
    Does this make Ellen Hanh the number two enemy behind Banzhole?
    Or am I mistaking her for some other person with a similar name on other smoking ban initiatives?
    You be the judge.
    Smoking out socialist smack on cigarettes
    By Jim Waters
    Kentucky’s smoking nannies have made it clear: They want a state-government imposed and enforced smoking ban in every public place in the commonwealth – even in local communities that have decided otherwise.
    We must stop them.
    They brush aside as insignificant — or worse, ignore altogether — the right of local governments to make smoking policies that best fit their communities, especially if those decisions result in a partial ban rather than a total one.
    For example, the state’s Chief Smoking Nanny, Ellen Hahn, who directs the University of Kentucky Center for Smoke Free Policy, recently issued her call for a statewide ban while in Bowling Green to speak to the Rotary Club.
    “I think it would be really wonderful if the state would pass it,” Hahn told Dan Modlin, news director for Western Kentucky University’s public radio affiliate, who covered the speech. “However, let me just say — it has got to be totally comprehensive, meaning that all work places would be covered.”
    Then to my amazement, she added: “It has to have anti-pre-emptive language, meaning that local governments could do more if they wanted to.”
    Look out. The nannies think those governments not satisfied with simply trampling on the private-property rights of business owners should be able to tell you what you can – or cannot – do in your personal living space.
    Perhaps they could force apartment-building owners to ban smoking in their units, or send armed troops to arrest parents who smoke at home around children.
    Not only that, Hahn wants to spend “millions” on a statewide ban. Making a comment like that during an economic downturn makes me wonder what she’s been smoking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer View Post
    Ignorance and being Stupid on a College Campus.


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    I worked in academia for several years. There is no one more stupid than an academic. They are more concerned with political correctness and appearing to be "progressive" than they are with actual facts and advancing critical thought. I'm not surprised at all that these morons are including PV's as tobacco products. Stupid, just plain stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishhd View Post
    and in the Bar on campus.
    Hey, I ran that campus bar. We all smoked there, drank beer, and danced our butts off. I'm glad I'm not a young adult these days. They have to sneak around to explore their adulthood. Many will choose not to drink or to smoke and that’s good. But experimentation is part of the college experience and that has been taken away from them. Colleges and Universities have been turned from institutions of higher learning to day care centers run by the nanny state. It’s sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsxFun View Post
    , and smokeless
    tobacco products.

    B. For areas located within Fayette County, Kentucky, the use of all tobacco
    products is prohibited on all property that is owned, operated, leased, occupied, or
    controlled by the University.
    Right, so they're worried about second-hand snus?

    Laughable little people who feel the need to exert control over others because of their own inadequacies.

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    I pray to god i never meet that woman. I'm sorry yall, being that ignorant is no excuse. thats why when i go to places like that, i used to carry a pack of analogs and a can of Skoal. I was the one who would put the cig out and rite in front of em, put in a big ole pinch of dip. if they still continued to stand in front of me, well god bless there shoes, i hope it wasnt there favorite pair. I know thats not the right way to handle it, and it's ppl like me who can give others bad reps, but im sorry, i couldn help it!

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