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    Default City of Poway CA considers defining vaping as smoking - Tues meeting (cross posted)

    City of Poway considers defining vaping as smoking for purposes of their Clean Air ord. It's not clear if this would also ban outdoor vaping in parks, etc.:

    m . utsandiego . com/news/2014/jan/31/tp-poway-may-join-cities-snuffing-e-cigarettes

    If you go to the meeting, you might want to be prepared to meet this guy: www . pomeradonews .com/2014/01/31/lippman-medical-truths-concerning-e-cigarettes-and-hookahs
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    That second link should be broken, IMO. there's nothing but lies, deceit, and abolitionist propaganda in what that guy says.

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    That second link should be commented on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMA View Post
    That second link should be broken, IMO. there's nothing but lies, deceit, and abolitionist propaganda in what that guy says.
    Are you referring to this: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...ish-posts.html

    My understanding is that it applies to: Media and General News

    but not to: Legislation News
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    IMO any junk articles should be broken as to not give any extra google joose!!!
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    The last thing we want IMO is to be spoken in the same breath as hookah. Not good either, as we all know the two are not even close to being similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2coils View Post
    IMO any junk articles should be broken as to not give any extra google joose!!!
    I decided to give your POV the benefit of the doubt. That said, there's an argument for preserving junk-laden links in certain other forums besides media, which may be why the policy isn't posted/enforced site-wide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger_Lafayette View Post
    Are you referring to this: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...ish-posts.html

    My understanding is that it applies to: Media and General News

    but not to: Legislation News

    This actually applies to anywhere in the Forum. Please break your links, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2coils View Post
    The last thing we want IMO is to be spoken in the same breath as hookah. Not good either, as we all know the two are not even close to being similar.
    They are actually VERY similar in action however, there is a huge difference as far as risk, that being the presence of whole tobacco substrate and burning coal heat source. Vaping eliminates both of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMA View Post
    That second link should be broken, IMO. there's nothing but lies, deceit, and abolitionist propaganda in what that guy says.
    That is what you are going to get everywhere e-cig laws are proposed: big Pharma funded front groups who are pimping themselves out for cash. They make six figures peddling lies, you don't expect them to take a real job at Walmart as a cashier do you?

    You can only hope that the elected public servants you are talking to are just normal people who care about their constituents. And not big Government junkies Who need future MSA tobacco settlement payments to pay for general state expenditures.
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