Washington bill (6569) would tax tobacco substitutes (including e-cigs) at 95%, referred to Senate Ways and Means Cmte - Page 14
Page 14 of 20 FirstFirst ... 4101112131415161718 ... LastLast
Results 131 to 140 of 195
Like Tree353Likes

Thread: Washington bill (6569) would tax tobacco substitutes (including e-cigs) at 95%, referred to Senate Ways and Means Cmte

  1. #131
    Executive Director
    Smokefree Pennsylvania
    Vaping Advocate
    ECF Veteran
    Supporting Member

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    3,984

    Default

    Today's action alert from WA Vape Association is below. If the proposed $.08/milligram of nicotine would represent >300% tax on a bottle of 24 mg/ml e-liquid, that's the best argument yet against the new tax proposal (as its more than three times the 95% tax rate that was originally proposed).


    ACTION ALERT!
    "Legislators are proposing a $28 tax on a 15ml bottle of juice. Call 1-800-562-6000 today and tell them vote NO on House Bill 2795 and Senate Bill 6569"

    I realize many of you are already doing this. For those of you not doing this yet, TODAY is the day to get this going!!!!

    Regards,

    Joe Baba
    WA Vape Association
    360-348-2029
    DavidOck and Coldrake like this.

  2. #132
    Ultra Member ECF Veteran DrMA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Seattle area
    Posts
    1,454
    Blog Entries
    16

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidOck View Post
    The House bill, which just got passed! out of committee, says it goes to the general fund. Not even the lame excuse that it's "for the kids."
    The bill is confusing. It says all taxes go to the general fund unless explicitly directed otherwise. The taxes on "tobacco products" get explicitly allocated to the education fund later in the bill.
    zoiDman and DavidOck like this.

  3. #133
    My 0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran
    Supporting Member
    zoiDman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Local Group - Earth
    Posts
    16,816

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DrMA View Post
    The bill is confusing. It says all taxes go to the general fund unless explicitly directed otherwise. The taxes on "tobacco products" get explicitly allocated to the education fund later in the bill.
    Wow... That is a First.

    Confusion as to Exactly How Much and Exactly where Tax Monies will go.
    NorthOfAtlanta, DavidOck and DrMA like this.

  4. #134
    On the Snap... Team ECF (folding@home)
    Verified Member
    ECF Veteran
    9ball_AJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    "...luck plays a part in nine ball...But for some, luck itself is an art."
    Posts
    3,395

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidOck View Post
    The House bill, which just got passed! out of committee, says it goes to the general fund. Not even the lame excuse that it's "for the kids."
    The first section of the amended bill describes how the tax "will increase barriers to the use of electronic cigarettes by minors."

    "NEW SECTION. Sec. 1. The legislature finds that research by the
    centers for disease control and prevention has shown dramatic recent
    increases in the use of electronic cigarette nicotine delivery devices
    by youth. The legislature further finds that decreasing the disparity
    in taxation of nicotine used in electronic cigarettes and traditional
    tobacco products will increase barriers to the use of electronic
    cigarettes by minors. The legislature further finds that investments
    in education, including in research and development activities that
    improve public health such as those funded by the life sciences
    discovery fund and those that contribute to tobacco cessation, are in
    the public interest. Therefore, the legislature intends to dedicate
    revenues from the taxation of nicotine used in electronic cigarettes
    for educational purposes.
    Then later it appropriates the taxes collected from tobacco substitutes to the education legacy trust account:

    NEW SECTION. Sec. 9. A new section is added to chapter 82.26 RCW
    to read as follows:
    (1) Taxes collected under this chapter on the sale, handling, or
    distribution of tobacco substitutes must be deposited in the education
    legacy trust account.
    Regardless, it's absurd to think they can get away with this...

  5. #135
    Senior Member ECF Veteran Turnkeys's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    SW Washington State
    Posts
    172

    Default

    I just spoke to Rep. J.T. Wilcox's assistant, (making calls in opposition, and thanking those supporting.) She confirmed that the bill has passed committee and is 2nd ruled. She also stated (with some tone of surety) that "they don't have the votes to get it off the floor."

    Keep the phones jangling, people. Offices of supporting representatives (in which I don't reside) have expressed huge appreciation to callers from other districts.

    (is it weird that a Hunger Games reference flashed into mind as I identified my "district"?)

    Just heard back from Rep. Richard DeBolt's office. From discussions in caucus, if this reaches the floor, he will oppose.
    Last edited by Turnkeys; 03-10-2014 at 10:21 PM.
    zoiDman, tybin, sonicdsl and 4 others like this.

  6. #136
    Ultra Member ECF Veteran DrMA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Seattle area
    Posts
    1,454
    Blog Entries
    16

    Default

    I keep trying to contact my own reps (who unfortunately are not on the opposition group) and keep getting stonewalled. No response to email, indefinite hold on the phone

  7. #137
    On the Snap... Team ECF (folding@home)
    Verified Member
    ECF Veteran
    9ball_AJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    "...luck plays a part in nine ball...But for some, luck itself is an art."
    Posts
    3,395

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DrMA View Post
    I keep trying to contact my own reps (who unfortunately are not on the opposition group) and keep getting stonewalled. No response to email, indefinite hold on the phone
    Try calling the hotline and leaving a message with the nice gal on the phone. Give her your name and address and your position on both HB 2795 and SB 6569. A message will be sent to the 2 reps and 1 senator in your district.
    zoiDman likes this.

  8. #138
    Triple Guru Verified Member
    ECF Veteran
    Supporting Member
    tybin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    31,406
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Done................
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Godshall View Post
    Today's action alert from WA Vape Association is below. If the proposed $.08/milligram of nicotine would represent >300% tax on a bottle of 24 mg/ml e-liquid, that's the best argument yet against the new tax proposal (as its more than three times the 95% tax rate that was originally proposed).


    ACTION ALERT!
    "Legislators are proposing a $28 tax on a 15ml bottle of juice. Call 1-800-562-6000 today and tell them vote NO on House Bill 2795 and Senate Bill 6569"

    I realize many of you are already doing this. For those of you not doing this yet, TODAY is the day to get this going!!!!

    Regards,

    Joe Baba
    WA Vape Association
    360-348-2029
    zoiDman and 9ball_AJ like this.

  9. #139
    Senior Member ECF Veteran Turnkeys's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    SW Washington State
    Posts
    172

    Default

    I've been trying to see when / if this will be brought to the floor, or anything about upcoming committee / house / senate discussions. The Washington State Legislature and Home are either not showing what's upcoming, or I'm not finding the right navigation. (Not a neophyte to this, but dayum!)

    Can anyone offer enlightenment?
    Thanks.

  10. #140
    Senior Member Verified Member ImperfectFuture's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    224
    Blog Entries
    19

    Default

    Made a you tube video, forgive the shaking head (long story in other videos).

    Washington State Tax Proposal, Editorial, HELP Keep E cigs a Viable Alternative - YouTube
    patkin, aikanae1 and Coldrake like this.
    Never Say Never
    Don't Mess With a Newbie Non-Smoker


Bookmarks