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    Just got an e-mail from the FDA's CTP stating the following.

    Updates from the Center for Tobacco Products

    The FDA has not issued its proposed rule regarding what additional tobacco products should be regulated by the agency. We are aware that the Tobacco Vapor Electronic Cigarette Association has indicated publicly that they have a copy of our proposal. The proposal is still in draft form and under review. As a matter of policy, the FDA does not share draft rules with outside groups while a rule is still under review.


    Anyone have more info on this (e.g. an e-mail or news article in which TVECA says they have a copy of the potentially forthcoming FDA reg)?
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    GMA announced at the end of a nicotine poisoning story that in speaking with the TVECA, the CEO stated they had a copy.

    TVECA has the clip posted on their website. They used to also have a countdown odometer to Tuesday when they were going to post it. They have, sometime in the last couple hours, replaced the odometer with a message in red:

    TVECA | The Tobacco Vapor Electronic Cigarette Association
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    I'm assuming here's what happened:

    FDA gave TVECA a copy and told them the release date.
    TVECA was supposed to keep mum but instead announced it (essentially to the world) through GMA.
    FDA is aghast, as I think it was probably illegal what they did?
    FDA now claims it is nothing more than a draft and will not publish on Monday as planned.


    ETA: or rather, FDA is claiming TVECA is lying because the wording in the email portion you posted clearly says
    the FDA does not share draft rules with outside groups


    My bet, the FDA is lying about violating their policies.
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    TVECA website at TVECA | The Tobacco Vapor Electronic Cigarette Association now says

    Proposed FDA eCig regulations
    The TVECA has had informal discussions with the FDA today, 4/18/2014, and we all decided that in the best interest of the regulatory process as well as the industry and the public, not to post the document on Tuesday.

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    "GMA announced at the end of a nicotine poisoning story that in speaking with the TVECA, the CEO stated they had a copy."

    Who/what is GMA?

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    Good Morning America.

    Jump to the very end - around 2:57 mark.

    'GMA' Investigates Liquid Nicotine | Video - ABC News
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    Only GMA I know of is Good Morning America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pamdis View Post
    GMA announced at the end of a nicotine poisoning story that in speaking with the TVECA, the CEO stated they had a copy.

    TVECA has the clip posted on their website. They used to also have a countdown odometer to Tuesday when they were going to post it. They have, sometime in the last couple hours, replaced the odometer with a message in red:

    TVECA | The Tobacco Vapor Electronic Cigarette Association
    Huh? The statement on the TVECA web site is composed to two independent thoughts, neither of which may have anything to do with the other:

    The TVECA has had informal discussions with the FDA today, 4/18/2014,

    Well a lot of organizations, and interests have had "informal discussions" with the FDA regarding this matter.

    and we all decided that in the best interest of the regulatory process as well as the industry and the public, not to post the document on Tuesday.

    Ah - "the document"! The unnamed mystery document... The document(ation) of their informal talks with the FDA perhaps? (Yawn... And not cool either.)

    Not hanging on the edge of my seat over this one. Any more than I'm relying on GMA to be a credible reporting source.

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    What TVECA is saying is that after talking to FDA lawyers today, TVECA decided not to publish the not-yet-proposed FDA deeming regulation and/or other e-cig regs on their website next Tuesday.

    Seems like the FDA lawyers convinced TVECA to not become the next Wikileaks or Edward Snowdon (although I don't know what law they'd be breaking by publishing the FDA proposal on their website).
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    Early today, TVECA looked like this:
    2014-04-18_1757TVECA1.jpg

    After the FDA Special Statement, their Web page changed to this:
    tveca.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake6731 View Post
    Early today, TVECA looked like this:
    2014-04-18_1757TVECA1.jpg

    After the FDA Special Statement, their Web page changed to this:
    tveca.jpg
    Glad you got a screenshot... I saw the countdown timer earlier, but it didn't occur to me to take a screenshot of it!

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