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    Here's a news article about the PA House amending and approving the bill (HB 1177) to allow Philly to impose a $2/pack cig tax.
    Last-minute insert helped get Phila. cigarette tax approved - Philly.com


    The PA Senate is set to consider this bill tomorrow, and appears poised to send it to Gov. Corbett.

    Corbett has until Friday to either veto or sign the budget bill (if he does nothing, it will become law automatically). Since the Philly cigarette tax bill is budget related (similar to the pension bill Corbett wants enacted), since Corbett isn't pleased that the House GOP didn't approve or even consider the pension bill, and since Corbett is running for reelection (and is trailing in the polls), Corbett has some important decisions to make this week.
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    This state government is garbage

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    SenseFailed wrote
    This state government is garbage
    So far, and compared to many other states, PA's General Assembly and Governors have been very kind to tobacco harm reduction.
    No taxes on smokeless tobacco or e-cigs, no e-cig marketing restrictions, and vaping isn't banned anywhere (except in Philly).

    It would be helpful if the General Assembly enacted SB 1055 to ban the sale of "alternative nicotine products" to minors, and we need to urge them to do so during this summer.

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    Philadelphia Politicians Hopeful As Pa. Senate Prepares to Vote on Cigarette Tax CBS Philly

    If this $2/pack cig tax for Philly is approved, legal cigarette sales will decline by >50% in Philly, lots of cigarette smuggling will occur, e-cig sales will skyrocket, and many more smokers in Philly will begin to vape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Godshall View Post
    Philadelphia Politicians Hopeful As Pa. Senate Prepares to Vote on Cigarette Tax CBS Philly

    If this $2/pack cig tax for Philly is approved, legal cigarette sales will decline by >50% in Philly, lots of cigarette smuggling will occur, e-cig sales will skyrocket, and many more smokers in Philly will begin to vape.
    You can't call it smuggling if Philadelphia residents elect to buy their cigarettes in Bucks, Montgomery, Delaware or Chester counties. It's just an economic decision on where to make their purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Godshall View Post
    SenseFailed wrote


    So far, and compared to many other states, PA's General Assembly and Governors have been very kind to tobacco harm reduction.
    No taxes on smokeless tobacco or e-cigs, no e-cig marketing restrictions, and vaping isn't banned anywhere (except in Philly).

    It would be helpful if the General Assembly enacted SB 1055 to ban the sale of "alternative nicotine products" to minors, and we need to urge them to do so during this summer.
    I meant in general lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Godshall View Post
    Philadelphia Politicians Hopeful As Pa. Senate Prepares to Vote on Cigarette Tax CBS Philly

    If this $2/pack cig tax for Philly is approved, legal cigarette sales will decline by >50% in Philly, lots of cigarette smuggling will occur, e-cig sales will skyrocket, and many more smokers in Philly will begin to vape.
    If only Philly didn't ban vaping... This is just gonna make life even more miserable for the nicotine users in Philly whatever form of delivery they choose. I do hope tobacco tax revenues for Philly plummet and they get bit back by their own absurd practices.
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    Yesterday, the PA Senate amended and approved the bill (HB 1177) to let Philly impose a $2/pack cig tax (pg 52-56), and sent it back to the House, which scheduled its next voting session August 4. Philly officials are urging the legislature to resolve its differences, pass bill ASAP.
    Bill Information (History) - House Bill 1177; Regular Session 2013-2014 - PA General Assembly
    Regular Session 2013-2014 House Bill 1177 P.N. 3933
    Cigarette Tax Stalled; School Funding in Danger | News | Philadelphia Magazine
    Cigarette Tax To Fund Philadelphia Schools Suffers Setback As Pa. State Senate Amends Bill Further CBS Philly
    Cigarette tax for Philly schools bill hung up by House, Senate fight
    http://6abc.com/politics/pa-budget-b...-limbo/170549/
    Pa. Senate action delays Philly cigarette tax passage - Philly.com
    Cautious optimism on final passage of cigarette tax - Philly.com


    Interestingly, the estimated $80 million in annual cigarette tax revenue (to be generated by the proposed $2/pack tax in Philly) presumes that legal cigarette sales in Philly will immediately decline by 45%, which is about what I estimate (although that will still require aggressive enforcement of the new tax law by the PA Dept of Revenue, which only had 5 cigarette tax enforcement agents in the entire state last time I talked to them a few years ago).

    The financial winners of this tax would be Philly Schools, cigarette retailers located just outside the city limits in 3 adjacent PA counties (Bucks, Montgomery, Delaware), e-cig retailers, and smugglers who will buy low priced cigarette in MO, VA, GA or NC and drive them into Philly for resale.

    The financial losers would be cigarette smokers and retailers in Philly (especially cigarette retailers located near the city limits).

    Please note that cigarette smuggling is distinctly different than Philly smokers travelling outside the city to buy cigarettes (as the latter tax avoidance would remain legal).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Godshall View Post
    Interestingly, the estimated $80 million in annual cigarette tax revenue (to be generated by the proposed $2/pack tax in Philly) presumes that legal cigarette sales in Philly will immediately decline by 45%, which is about what I estimate.
    It would be interesting if there's a way to take a 'snapshot' of ecig sales before and after.

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    There's a good number of Philly residents that travel for work into Chester County also.

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