CAASA--Our Own Consumer Group Is Born

[Mammal]

Oh, if I'm going to call out the history for being incomplete - just found this which covers Big Tobacco's abortive efforts, see also page 1:
NOVA Online | Search for a Safe Cigarette | "Safer" Cigarettes: A History

Looks like the products/prototypes were "Premier," "Eclipse," and "Accord." Eclipse specifically used glycerin to produce vapor, so it's worth acknowledging and contrasting it [used it on a big wad of tobacco instead of as potentially-pure liquid] with what the Chinese inventor came up with.

And I remember the "Accord" design being specifically publicized as an "electronic cigarette" (Popular Science or Popular Mechanics?), so, again, disambiguation is warranted - reporters researching before a deadline might find the old articles but not pick up on the differences unless they're pointed out, and that effects how accurately they frame the safety/regulatory debates.

[kristin]

Mammal, you do realize that CASAA was just formed in October and it only consists of 13 unpaid, volunteer board members, right?

Until we get more CASAA members involved in the work instead of sitting and waiting for someone else to do it, the more we can stop and work on things like tweeking the website.

I did that history timeline on ECF a while ago and we just copied and pasted it on the CASAA site for reference, back when we were trying to get ANY content on the site. Sorry it's not perfect, but I did ask for help with it back when I did it and no one had any comments. If you want to copy the history timeline, update it and submit a complete timeline to the board, please do. We can use all the help we can get.

I also don't see that you have volunteered as an area rep.

CASAA is only as good as it's member participation, involvement, activism and assistance!

[Mammal]

Mammal, you do realize that CASAA was just formed in October and it only consists of 13 unpaid, volunteer board members, right?

Just dared to check back here... and spent an hour or two writing something really long, then looked back at the CASAA site, and either the e-smoking/smorking/'vaping' brainworms have gotten to me or six paragraphs about pleading facts separately from conclusions isn't really warranted.

So as I was going to open with - no hard feelings ever intended, just trying to provide the benefit of my 'new-to-this' eyeballs. (And to some extent - after just a couple days active here, I totally see how it's easy to fall into the siege mentality, 'oh geez, another [something] from someone completely unfamiliar with these things'.. while those just dropping in, be they MDs, politicians, or campaigners one way or the other, may not 'get it' right away. Particularly when the panic (our panic) makes every action item about availability, leaving little room to contemplate safety beyond 'it looks pretty okay so far.')

If I find time to pluck more nits I'll try to raise them with more courtesy/not just dump them in this thread, but... hey, those were my first impressions.

I did that history timeline on ECF a while ago and we just copied and pasted it on the CASAA site for reference, back when we were trying to get ANY content on the site. Sorry it's not perfect, but I did ask for help with it back when I did it and no one had any comments. If you want to copy the history timeline, update it and submit a complete timeline to the board, please do. We can use all the help we can get.

I also don't see that you have volunteered as an area rep.

CASAA is only as good as it's member participation, involvement, activism and assistance!

To paraphrase a certain ex-Netscape personality, 'Argh, do I really have to sysadmin my nicotine addiction?'
But I know exactly what you mean, and if you want some help adding that to the timeline, I'll see if I can scrape it together... it's really just "Prehistory:" with one or two line items to cover those earlier designs (and the history of western nicotine use if anyone wants that much perspective), and "The current era:" starting where it does now.

[SMILIN]

Mammal, you do realize that CASAA was just formed in October and it only consists of 13 unpaid, volunteer board members, right?

Until we get more CASAA members involved in the work instead of sitting and waiting for someone else to do it, the more we can stop and work on things like tweeking the website.

I did that history timeline on ECF a while ago and we just copied and pasted it on the CASAA site for reference, back when we were trying to get ANY content on the site. Sorry it's not perfect, but I did ask for help with it back when I did it and no one had any comments. If you want to copy the history timeline, update it and submit a complete timeline to the board, please do. We can use all the help we can get.

I also don't see that you have volunteered as an area rep.

CASAA is only as good as it's member participation, involvement, activism and assistance!

Kristin

V4L will help, and assist you as best we can. I have many idea's, and will contribute, more, than just money. This is a true travisty, and injustice, wht is happening to erode our rights in America, and around the world.

Thank you for all you have done, and yes, we will talk tomorrow.

Regards

Steve

[sentrarob]

Why can't they just leave us alone. They know we are not harming anyone!! The government just wants their share of the revenue because they are greedy

[Lucy05]

Registered. Its a great cause and a great group!

[ShaneC]

Registered!

[Nyxie]

Good Job CASAA!
Believe it or not CASAA is the first thing I have ever joined and supported, as in an organization for anything that I found a reason to join. I am proud to be part of CASAA even if it is a small donation here and there. I will do what I can, when I can.
It is more then I have done before, unless you count the time I did send a donation to ACS in lieu of wedding favors. But that was only a one time deal because my sister in law lost her battle with cervical cancer the yr we got married. I recently sent them a letter when they sent me the send more money form. It said basically that I will no longer support them until they reconsider their stance on E cigs.

[Sgt.Taz]

Registered! Thanks for all your hard work!

[Vocalek]

You are welcome, and thank you!